when will next M$ OS be available?

Quote from prt_systems:

Actually $soft is reforming the way they build the OS - see todays WSJ article for some details.

This success means that there will be faster and fewer bugfixes - this idea is partially validated from what I have seen thus far .....

Still, the quality of our Linux installations is, by our analysis, much higher than $soft. Perhaps their modified approach will narrow the gap ... I will be watching.
Of course, the other story that runs is that M$ is long convinced about this already and plans to dump all its OS business in favor for linux. They would stick to their office soft in order to survive.

BTW, this might be the reason for M$ going sloooow on hasta la vista. They are simply playing for time.

They also must have read that Forbes article:
http://www.computing.co.uk/forbes/news/2142257/microsofts-midlife-crisis:D
 
Quote from nononsense:

"Luctor et Emergo"
This is the symbol of Zeeland in the Netherlands meaning:
I fight and I will stay on top of it.

PS: that's what I have been doing for a couple of years now and finally I got completely rid of that misery. Gnome, I sincerely hope you're not going to keep on suffering till 2010.

Hate to be a party poop, but I don't feel that I suffer at all with Windows XP. I rarely have any kind of problem.... can't imagine how any other OS could serve my needs significantly better. And as such I view Microsoft-bashing, Linux-loving zealots as "protesting too much".
 
Quote from nononsense:

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BTW, this might be the reason for M$ going sloooow on hasta la vista. They are simply playing for time.

Look at Jim Allchins comments: I have worked for $soft ... you are overstimating them...

They have put off - at the expense of their customers - performing the re-organization of the the last convoluted dependency pieces of the OS for several years simply due to inertia. They finally got the point where it all broke down and everyone knew they would get to this point .. they just kept procrastinating.
 
Quote from gnome:

Hate to be a party poop, but I don't feel that I suffer at all with Windows XP. I rarely have any kind of problem.... can't imagine how any other OS could serve my needs significantly better. And as such I view Microsoft-bashing, Linux-loving zealots as "protesting too much".
I'm bashing NOBODY. I'm simply sharing my personal experience. I can assure you that when XYZ$ can serve me better than unix/linux, I'll start switching yesterday.
:cool:
 
Quote from gnome:

Hate to be a party poop, but I don't feel that I suffer at all with Windows XP. I rarely have any kind of problem.... can't imagine how any other OS could serve my needs significantly better. And as such I view Microsoft-bashing, Linux-loving zealots as "protesting too much".

No not really ... if it meets your needs then its fine .. its just a piece of software - dialtone basically for your application stack. My only interest in Linux versus $soft is cost plain and simple. Our analysis shows that productivitiy is basically the same on the two platforms for end users. Thus it all boils down - for us - to the total cost (ROI) and for our case $soft is more expensive.
 
Quote from nononsense:

I'm bashing NOBODY. I'm simply sharing my personal experience.
:cool:

I didn't specifically say "you", but there are those on on ET who constantly claim, in so many words, "Microsoft is crap", "change to Linux ASAP", "only dumb-asses are still using Windows", etc. Or, whenever someone asks a question about Windows, some Linuxite pipes in "well, if you used Linux you wouldn't have to ask such a question".

Personally, I don't see it. And unless Equis comes up with a Linux version of MetaStock, I'll likely never change until I stop trading.... oh, I guess that's a moot point, as I'd also have stopped breathing or become totally demented. :D

Of course if I were starting a business or had an application where I had a choice of OS and its costs were a significant consideration, I'd be foolish not to give Linux a look.
 
Putting cost aside, could someone elaborate why Linux is superior to M$, in terms of technology, business model, ...? You need to come up with solid arguments, simply bashing M$ isn't going to convince me.
 
Quote from gnome:

Vista is due at end of 2006. If you have a choice, suggest waiting until the release of Service Pack 2.

As a sideline to the "working out the bugs" issue, Microsoft does piss me off with their hurry to bring out a a new OS. Of course, that gets us consumers ponying up our cash for new software and hardware sooner than our needs really require... like a forced obsolescence. And to rub salt into that wound, MS really brings their OSs to market before they're actually ready... that way, we all get to pay to be beta testers.
 
Quote from CoolTrader:

Putting cost aside, could someone elaborate why Linux is superior to M$, in terms of technology, business model, ...? You need to come up with solid arguments, simply bashing M$ isn't going to convince me.
CoolTrader,
That's a good question. Why don't you start elaborating why M$ is superior to Linux, in terms of technology, business model, ... ? You need to come up with solid arguments, etc.

In fact I'm pulling your leg of course but my pun is legitimate.
As traders, many people come together in this thread. Some run a standard package, some do rather sophisticated software development. For my part , I believe that I know what is best for me. In general, talking about business models, we all know about the perverse nature of a de facto monopoly. Look a bit around in the US & EU, even courts decided it to be true. The naive happy user, worried about having to perhaps switch and relearn a bit of OS in the future is in fact sorrowfully duped by any form of MONOPOLY, often totally unaware of it. That's why a long time ago laws were passed to curb it. These days they don't seem to work anymore.

I could get into far more detail on this how vendors, suppliers are constantly coerced and threatened to keep 'unfriendly' products out of their boxies, off their shelves and left without support in order to extend the reign of some kind of technologically inferior product forced on the crowds at whatever price the market will bear. If you never have seen textbook monopoly in action, don't miss your chance.
As an introduction, Madison gave you an excellent introductory reference.
 
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