When was the last time 14 people died of the flu in 12hrs...in one hospital?

The current mortality rate is ~3%, but that's based off of confirmed cases. It's estimated that ~80% of cases will have light symptoms or no symptoms at all. Those cases will go largely undiagnosed.

The actual mortality rate is probably closer to 0.5%. That doesn't sound that bad, but the flu mortality rate is under 0.1%. Plus the flu has vaccines & treatments. It doesn't typically require prolonged hospitalization.

The mortality rate is likely much lower than what's being advertised, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we shouldn't be taking actions to keep our healthcare system from being overwhelmed.

It doesn't matter. All that matters is the rate of hospitalization and the deaths. If you can't put these people on ventilators then we will see 100s-1000s of deaths each day. It's pointless to predict. You're not an epidemiologist. I doubt your one semester of Stats 101 is helpful here.

COVID-19 hospitalization rates are 4x higher than seasonal flu. 45yo AT&T Director was on a ventilator. Guy runs the Austin Marathon every year and he coded last night. He's stable.
 
It doesn't matter. All that matters is the rate of hospitalization and the deaths. If you can't put these people on ventilators then we will see 100s-1000s of deaths each day. It's pointless to predict. You're not an epidemiologist. I doubt your one semester of Stats 101 is helpful here.

COVID-19 hospitalization rates are 4x higher than seasonal flu. 45yo AT&T Director was on a ventilator. Guy runs the Austin Marathon every year and he coded last night. He's stable.

We know this, we know why, it'll burn out soon but not before massive uptake, why there building hospital beds and making ventilators asap to be ready.

Calm!
 
that is the thing... who the heck knows the proper inputs to make that model.

nobody knows those graphs are accurate for austrailia or anyone else.
why are you lefties so willing to surrender to a model? Should we not question the models and the authority presenting the model? hey maybe the model is a good one. lets examine the inputs and see how complete they are.

do you leftists understand the limitations of models....

We have articles from other experts at Ivy league schools ... telling the CDC that if you don't combine short cycles of social distancing with periods of herd exposure to get herd immunity you will likely just reignite the virus again when the shutdown ends.

The only thing anyone can really model with great accuracy is a vaccine.

So you tell me which group of experts are correct?

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It's NOVEL you fucking twat.

HERD IMMUNITY results from individuals interacting within an IMMUNE population; either via a vaccine or a herd consisting of recovered individuals.

You are literally the dumbest mofo on Earth.
 
We know this, we know why, it'll burn out soon but not before massive uptake, why there building hospital beds and making ventilators asap to be ready.

Calm!

Oh please. I had Flu A this season and didn't know it. Scarlett Fever while in Barranquilla and worked 40 hours/week. You people treating it like the common cold because you're losing money.
 
Oh please. I had Flu A this season and didn't know it. Scarlett Fever while in Barranquilla and worked 40 hours. You people treating it like the common cold because you're losing money.

Stop treating it like the plague!
 
the only way you could argue with what I wrote was to create
a strawman (novel) and then make a bullshit argument.
but then you had to include the caveat about interacting with immune population because you knew you were being a dick.

you know the virus is already out in the community...
you know many of us have had it but are are not tested.
you know many of us have had mild or no symptoms.
(the doctors have told us this.)
therefore you know we may already be building up herd immunity
some of us already may have antibodies.

We might be on the way to herd immunity right now

So herd immunity could be happening right now.
and you fucking know it.

therefore you were a douchbag to make that argument, and you should acknowledge it.

It's NOVEL you fucking twat.

HERD IMMUNITY results from individuals interacting within an IMMUNE population; either via a vaccine or a herd consisting of recovered individuals.

You are literally the dumbest mofo on Earth.
 
that is the thing... who the heck knows the proper inputs to make that model.


nobody knows those graphs are accurate for austrailians or anyone else.
why are you lefties so willing to surrender to a model? Should we not question the models and the authority presenting the model? hey maybe the model is a good one. lets examine the inputs and see how complete they are.

do you leftists understand the limitations of models....

We have articles from other experts at Ivy league schools ... telling the CDC that if you don't combine short cycles of social distancing with periods of herd exposure to get herd immunity you will likely just reignite the virus again when the shutdown ends.

The only thing anyone can really model with great accuracy is a vaccine.



So you tell me which group of experts are correct?







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Blames lefties for surrendering to elementary math
Prays at the altar of dear cult leader
 
the only way you could argue with what I wrote was to create
a strawman (novel) and then make a bullshit argument to knock it down..
but then you had to include the caveat about interacting with immune population because you knew I was correct.

you knew you were making a dickhead argument as you were making it.


you know the virus is already out in the community...
you know many of us have had it but are are not tested.
you know many of us have had mild or no symptoms.
(the doctors have told us this.)
therefore you know we may already be building up herd immunity
some of us already may have antibodies.

We might be on the way to herd immunity right now

So herd immunity could be happening right now.
and you fucking know it.

therefore you were a douchbag and should acknowledge it you have any intellectual integrity.


Dipshit, you do not know what herd immunity entails... I corrected your monumental fuck up.
 
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