When to throw in the towel as a trader?

I go to the Gym five days a week and train for 1 hour with a combination of weight lifting and aerobics (on trading days, usually) I find this keeps me more nimble minded and when I train, I can feel the endorphins kick in when I reach a certain level, usually after the weight training when I am on the cross-trainer. I wonder if traders gamble less if they get their adrenalin and endorphins through training at the gym instead of through trading?

Michael B.
 
Reality. Gotta love it. Well written.

Quote from Businessman:

You mention compulsive gambling.

There are more traders addicted to the action than would care
to admit.

Unlike other forms of gambling, the trader thinks he is either
investing or running a business. The gambling element and
addiction creap up on the failing trader without them realising it.

The constant winning and losing, highs and lows, the body
gets addicted to the adrelenin and endorphins constantly
being pumped through the system.

The lack of action in other parts of a traders life make them
feel hollow when they are out of the market.

Then theres also the point of no return, youve spent years
trading, lost large sums in the market and probably alot more
in oppurtunity costs (giving up your day job or neglecting a
promising if otherwise boring career). So you feel you cant
quit, all that effort would be wasted. After all you spent all those
years learning from your mistakes and going through all that
pain. To just give up would mean all that was for nothing.

I suppose life after (failed) trading for a lot of people is the same
for the majority of people in life who have (monetary) dreams
they work hard for and never attain (or attain and then lose),
you join the ranks of lifes losers and your life from then on
becomes a constant struggle.
 
Part of my trading plan is to excercise approxiametly 3 hours a day. Excercise kills the stress, keeps my mind in tip top shape, releases endorphins and its gonna help turn my 1 pack back to the 8 pack I used to have.

I'm even moving to the west coast so I can live a more active life.

In conclusion, I think excercising is very important and affects all aspects of life positively.

ozzy

Quote from ElectricSavant:

I go to the Gym five days a week (on trading days, usually) I find this keeps me more nimble minded. I wonder if traders gamble less if they get their adrenalin and endorphins through training at the gym instead of through trading?

Michael B.
 
Yeah ozzy,

3 hours is good. I would burn out though...When I was younger I could do it. I am too busy now....writing in here :) and testing new systems...

Hey but at least I schlep myself to the gym for one hour a day! (weekends I drink like a fish!...not really a half a beer knocks me out now :))

Michael B.


Quote from ozzy:

Part of my trading plan is to excercie approxiametly 3 hours a day. Excercise kills the stress, keeps my mind in tip top shape and its gonna help turn my 1 pack back to the 8 pack I used to have.

I'm even moving to the west coast so I can live a more active life.

In conclusion, I think excercising is very important.

ozzy
 
Quote from Hydroblunt:

That's interesting, you have any resources on this topic? I'm guessing studies were done on gamblers but have any beed done on traders, particularly floor traders.

You have a point otherwise, just like a bad trade, there needs to be a cut-off point somewhere. I disagree with some posters, not anyone can make it no matter the time & work put in. Some people are meant for it, most are not. So give yourself enough time to try it out but don't get married to it.
Not precisely this topic, but if you are interested in similar ideas but taken much deeper and more generally, I highly recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...2/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-0176320-6788175

IMO it is must reading for every trader.

nitro
 
Moutain biking, rock climbing, kayaking, snow boarding, running, hiking. I'm gonna go nutz on the West Coast.

But I hear where your coming from, the older you get the harder it is to dedicate the time. I'm getting older myself and I realize I have to work even harder than before to stay fit.

mmmm Beer, still like the beer though. Everything in moderation (except trading).

ozzy

Quote from ElectricSavant:

Yeah ozzy,

3 hours is good. I would burn out though...When I was younger I could do it. I am too busy now....writing in here :) and testing new systems...

Hey but at least I schlep myself to the gym for one hour a day! (weekends I drink like a fish!...not really a half a beer knocks me out now :))

Michael B.
 
Quote from Mr Kamikaze:

A question that I am continually being asked these days by both newbies and experienced (but struggling) traders is at what point should they accept defeat...
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Quote from Mr Kamikaze:
...I have always made money consistently and so have never been faced with this dilemma personally.
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...
It almost made me PM you for advice/couching/mentoring...
:p

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I am a dumb trader. Good, you will inherit pips.
 
Quote from ozzy:

Throw in the towel? Quit?

Never heard of these words/expressions.

Neither did I....One day I had to take my hands from my ears.
 
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