When it comes to crime, Democrats are in danger of being mugged by reality

[Tony Stark]

So all the statements from progressive Durham City Council members stating how successful they have been in defunding the police and reducing the number of police on the streets are not good enough for you? How about the Council member Jillian Johnson stating she wishes to cut the number of police to zero. Shall we start looking at the statements from the Durham Beyond Policing organization (which I have not even brought up yet) -- who three progressive council members are part of.

What type of magical source is good enough for you to be a "source that makes that same conclusion." Should I start posting information from local right-wing blogs and Twitter accounts? Will that work for you? At some point it is clear that the "evidence" you are requesting as proof is ridiculous.

I provided my list of sources -- all aligned with my contention. Tony and you just want to play childish word-smithing games rather than have an educational discussion. That is your prerogative.

No one is playing word-smithing games.We are looking at what the city of Durham gave the Durham PD.

 

[ipatent]

Did the police budget even come near the inflation increase?

Some public safety expenses like gasoline could be up even more than the ~7.5% YOY inflation.

 

[gwb-trading]

Grant money usually comes from the federal government and is not a part of city funding as it varies by year.If the city got a bigger grant for covid in 2021 than they did in 2022 that is not defunding the police.The city of Durham gave more to police in 2022 than they did in 2021


2021

2022

Let's look at the full budget with resource allocation. Is $70,283,033 greater or less than $70,363,362. Let us know.

 

[Cuddles]

Tell us -- what is the rate of inflation. Did the police budget even come near the inflation increase?

cons were lauding for spurious printing during Donnie's reign. They're calling for halting such practice and austerity measures. Well, there you have it.

Also, supply chain

 

[Tony Stark]

Tell us -- what is the rate of inflation. Did the police budget even come near the inflation increase?

First federal grant money now inflation

 

[userque]

So all the statements from progressive Durham City Council members stating how successful they have been in defunding the police and reducing the number of police on the streets are not good enough for you? How about the Council member Jillian Johnson stating she wishes to cut the number of police to zero. Shall we start looking at the statements from the Durham Beyond Policing organization (which I have not even brought up yet) -- who three progressive council members are part of.

What type of magical source is good enough for you to be a "source that makes that same conclusion." Should I start posting information from local right-wing blogs and Twitter accounts? Will that work for you? At some point it is clear that the "evidence" you are requesting as proof is ridiculous.

I provided my list of sources -- all aligned with my contention. Tony and you just want to play childish word-smithing games rather than have an educational discussion. That is your prerogative.

I'll dumb it down for you again:

Since your contention is that they were defunded due to the 'defund the police' movement;

post a credible source that says, in effect, Durham defunded due to the 'defund the police' movement.

I can't make it any simpler.

A credible source has to make that conclusion. Not you. Not me. Not other armchair pundits pouring over reams of raw data at your behest.

 

[Cuddles]

First federal grant money now inflation

GWB: Stop giving COVID relief monies to people
Also GWB: Why are you reducing COVID relief moneys to cops?

 

[userque]

GWB: Stop giving COVID relief monies to people
Also GWB: Why are you reducing COVID relief moneys to cops?

I think this sort of thing happens when the left brain is disconnected from the right brain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain

 

[gwb-trading]

I'll dumb it down for you again:

Since your contention is that they were defunded due to the 'defund the police' movement;

post a credible source that says, in effect, Durham defunded due to the 'defund the police' movement.

I can't make it any simpler.

A credible source has to make that conclusion. Not you. Not me. Not other armchair pundits pouring over reams of raw data at your behest.

Would the statements of Durham City Council members be considered a credible source.

You know the people who reduced the FY2021-22 police budget by 0.1% and eliminated 20 officer positions to fund their "public safety department" of "violence interrupters" -- all on the premise that this is a police alternative supporting the "defund the police" movement.

 

[Tony Stark]

Let's look at the full budget with resource allocation. Is $70,283,033 greater or less than $70,363,362. Let us know.

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Notice how the grant money dropped from 2,368,734 to 1,336,536

Lower likey covid grant money is not defunding the police.The city gave the Durham PD more in 2022 than they did in 2021