What's Wrong with Canada?

[Kassz007]

Quote from sps_45:

This is semi off topic, but I have a question I haven't been able to get answered for years. In the mid 1990's (1993-1997) alot of my family living in Canada (mostly Toronto) had intensions of moving out of Canada. Some actually made the move, keeping their homes in Canada cause they wouldn't sell. They eventually moved back since they still had their homes and now their homes are worth more and the economy is general is 10 fold what it was during the mid 1990's. What happened in Canada during this time?

Some differences in Canada from the mid 90's to now:


1. Canada was highly indebted at that time, and spent a lot of money on debt servicing. That is no longer the case.

2. Higher resource prices and increased resource extraction.

3. More foreign investment.

4. Lower tax rates.

5. Increased trade relations with countries other than the USA (namely China and the EU).

 

[dtan1e]

Quote from the1:

You obviously haven't been exposed to the health care system up there. Do a bit of research and see how bad it is.

i've used the health care, love it, the best in the world

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from Kassz007:

Some differences in Canada from the mid 90's to now:


1. Canada was highly indebted at that time, and spent a lot of money on debt servicing. That is no longer the case.

Actually last I saw the "Conservatives" wiped out 13 years of Canadian debt repayments with the deficit from a single budget. So no, the raw debt is as bad as it ever was.

Now they want tax cuts, and they want more spending on things like the military which means more debt.

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from bigdavediode:

Actually last I saw the "Conservatives" wiped out 13 years of Canadian debt repayments with the deficit from a single budget. So no, the raw debt is as bad as it ever was.

Now they want tax cuts, and they want more spending on things like the military which means more debt.

I'm not sure where you've been, but there was a worldwide recession a couple of years ago. The Conservatives (at the insistance of the NDP and Liberals, by the way), spent large amounts of money on infrastructure during this time. Considering we have recovered all of the jobs we lost during the recession, it seems like it was a good strategy.

The actually want less spending. I can tell by your post that you don't pay much attention to Canadian politics. Military is one area where they do want to increase spending, however. And it's about time, considering Canada is one of the wealthiest nations yet spends diddly squat on military.

By the way, the Conservatives have pledged to erase the deficit by 2014 and won a majority election based on this promise. The Canadian public will hold them accountable and vote them out in four years if they don't deliver on this. So I'm pretty sure it's high on the priority list.

 

[bigdavediode]

Quote from Kassz007:

I'm not sure where you've been, but there was a worldwide recession a couple of years ago. The Conservatives (at the insistance of the NDP and Liberals, by the way), spent large amounts of money on infrastructure during this time. Considering we have recovered all of the jobs we lost during the recession, it seems like it was a good strategy.

The actually want less spending. I can tell by your post that you don't pay much attention to Canadian politics. Military is one area where they do want to increase spending, however. And it's about time, considering Canada is one of the wealthiest nations yet spends diddly squat on military.

By the way, the Conservatives have pledged to erase the deficit by 2014 and won a majority election based on this promise. The Canadian public will hold them accountable and vote them out in four years if they don't deliver on this. So I'm pretty sure it's high on the priority list.

They've pledged to wipe out the deficit that they created. That sounds exactly like the Republicans. Three years from now Canada will still be mired in deficit, of course, because of all the promises they made. The military spending will be on F35's, in the age of drones, which have already doubled in cost, a highway joining Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk (how much will that be?), etc. etc. etc.

And no, I have no faith that voters in Ontario will hold anyone accountable.

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from bigdavediode:

They've pledged to wipe out the deficit that they created. That sounds exactly like the Republicans. Three years from now Canada will still be mired in deficit, of course, because of all the promises they made. The military spending will be on F35's, in the age of drones, which have already doubled in cost, a highway joining Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk (how much will that be?), etc. etc. etc.

And no, I have no faith that voters in Ontario will hold anyone accountable.

The deficit they created to improve the staggering infrastructure deficit in this country during a global recession, yes.

You do know that the dollar figure surrounding the F35 purchase is over 30 years, right? You do know that the F35 is widely considered one of the most advanced fighter jets ever, right?

Your problem is that you want to compare the Republicans in the USA to the Conservatives in Canada. They are not comparable, with the exception of being right-of-center economically speaking.

By the way, "etc. etc. etc." to me is synonymous with "I have no other examples but I'm sure there's more because I don't like the Conservaties."

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from bigdavediode:


And no, I have no faith that voters in Ontario will hold anyone accountable.

You don't think? Look at the polls for the upcoming provincial election in October. Voters in Ontario are holding the Liberal McGuinty accountable for his shitty governing job the past few years, and are ready and waiting to vote in the Conservative Hudak. That is accountability.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Kassz007:

I live in Canada and love it. Especially now with a Conservative government dedicated to lowering taxes.

The biggest gripe is usually the climate (although us Canadians love the snow). The biggest threat economically is our ageing population. We need immigrants because our population growth is not high enough. I just hope we get the right immigrants and not the wrong ones.

We got 12 - 13 million, mostly Latino, illegal immigrants you can have. Just pay shipping and handling.
And you'll be happy to know they breed like rabbits.

 

[shortie]

Quote from Lucrum:

We got 12 - 13 million, mostly Latino, illegal immigrants you can have. Just pay shipping and handling.
And you'll be happy to know they breed like rabbits.

would you favor abortions for Hispanic women?

 

[Kassz007]

Quote from Lucrum:

We got 12 - 13 million, mostly Latino, illegal immigrants you can have. Just pay shipping and handling.
And you'll be happy to know they breed like rabbits.

Na, they don't do well with our climate. I worked with Mexicans in my younger days during the summer holidays. They would come up here for seasonal work. I would be sweating buckets without a shirt on, and they would be wearing big flanel jackets with their toques on stand by. No joke.

Canada seems to attract more of the Chinese and Indian crowd.