What's the latest on future Healthcare & Health Insurance & IRS Fines for no coverage

You either have a great memory or spent some time to look that up. I wrote that a while back. I spoke to an insurance broker the other day and plans are already popping up that cover people with pre-existing conditions for reasonable prices. The catch is that benefits are capped at very low amounts. For example, there is a $6,000 for any surgery. That's quite funny because open heart surgery costs about $50,000. If you get cancer the treatment is capped at $10k. Shit, one infusion of rituxan costs $7k. You're better off paying the fine and going to a county hospital if you have one.

The Obama plan hasn't solved anything for the middle class. If you get laid off you have to buy insurance but what are you going to buy insurance with. You're laid off for Christ's sake. You ain't got no money to buy insurance. I'm gonna be real curious to see what assistance the government is going to extend to people in this kind of situation. Lord knows, there are plenty right now.

I still believe this health care bill will fail miserably and we'll convert to a single payer health plan and massive taxes to pay for it. The Brits have to pay a tax to park in the street and another to watch TV. They tried to pass a tax based on how many windows you had in your house so people started bricking up their windows. The US is quickly converting to a police state. I fear for the next generation. It's going to be like living in Germany post WWI

Quote from NoBailOutBoy:

Quote from the1:
This plan was designed to fail so people will have no alternative than to accept a national health plan like England's. The US is a studious student of England's government policies toward their citizens. Cameras are popping up all over the place now. Look no further than right across the pond to see what life will be like in the future. A national plan is on the horizon.

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I've also heard the fine to be $750. I've also been told that an unemployed construction worker (as if there is some other kind of construction worker) like myself will be able to "Cash In" on Obysmal-Care for about $2k annually but it will have a $5k deductible.
I currently spend an average of $1800 in Cash each year for treatment of various and assorted skin cancers. The cancers are obviously a result of years working in the sun back in the not too distant past. You probably remember those days when JOBS were something people went to, and not clever sound bytes uttered during photo opps.
Anyway, it shouldn't be too difficult to figure that I'll be paying the fine.

re: the1,
I agree with you on England. However, if you want a truly clear picture of Obama's Vision, you'll need a time machine, travel back to England 250 years ago, don't forget to take along the surveillance equipment, and have a look at King George's world.
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Very interesting article. This is the big one:

<i>Lesson 4: The exchanges reward people for working less and earning less.</i>

There are two major things people need. A house and health insurance. Right now you can't have both but with new legislation coming down the pipe you probably can but you have to produce as little as you can to qualify for the cheap/free plans.

Quote from MattF:

One needs to look at the Massachusetts plan to see where this is all going, since MA has a "mandated" state plan to get insurance through something (state, private, or employment) or else pay the fines, namely through losing your personal exemption on the state tax form.

Right now it costs 0 if you are "poor" (by federal definition), then anywhere from $39-$116 a month depending on your income (up to $66K for a family of 4) & "plan" you choose. Copays are cheap too...as to what is "specifically" covered, well that's the usual fine print.

Now I went with this because my "job" at the time for the virtual exact same coverage/numbers was about 2-2.5 times more a month...although I think it also included dental, numbers-wise it worked out far better for me not to have it and pay for the usual 2 cleanings a year + xray.

Of course, there's bureaucracy! My income went up, so I had to re-submit forms as I moved into a new "tier." Then again. Then again. Then they're allegedly ending my plan because they "didn't get the paperwork." I submitted that bit a day before the deadline so it was at least "received." Then they wanted part of it AGAIN. When I did it THIS time (since the satellite office is a few minutes from me), I got the, "well, they're backed up now" deal. Shocker. Of course I could see it now if I was "in serious trouble" and held up because of all this. Joy.

Take that times about 100,000

Or just read this recent CNNMoney article on this forum thread:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/15/news/economy/massachusetts_healthcare_reform.fortune/
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Obama has issued 222 Obamcacare waivers to various companies and unions.

So the law, that was suppose to solve all our economic and health costs woes, is so good that one needs to be exempt from it to survive economically.
 
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