Whatever happened to "probable cause" ?

[achilles28]

Quote from bigarrow:

Who's the dictator ?

The military industrial complex. The rouge upper echelon of the military, CIA, Defense Contractors, Oil, and namely, Wallstreet Banks. They own that fool in the White House, and nearly every Congressman and Senator in DC.

Did you even bother to fucking read what the NSA whistleblower said was going on behind the scenes? No. Cause you dont give a shit. Cause nothing can go wrong under 'your President'.

The Right was just as guilty of it under Bush. But at least some of the Neocons are waking up.

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from achilles28:

The military industrial complex. The rouge upper echelon of the military, CIA, Defense Contractors, Oil, and namely, Wallstreet Banks. They own that fool in the White House, and nearly every Congressman and Senator in DC.

Did you even bother to fucking read what the NSA whistleblower said was going on behind the scenes? No. Cause you dont give a shit. Cause nothing can go wrong under 'your President'.

The Right was just as guilty of it under Bush. But at least some of the Neocons are waking up.

People had better wake up quick, or we can turn the lights out on america Yes, it's sad to see the Obama lovers defend the evil shit he's done, and currently doing...

 

[PHOENIX TRADING]

Quote from bigarrow:

If congress passes a law and it is not struck down by the courts then it is legal. From what I read the illegal argument isn't going to work.

Wouldn't hang my hat on that "legal " bullshit if I were you.
it was legal to round up and shoot jews less than 75 yrs ago in a former democratic state.

We even had a piece of shit president threaten to pack the court so that his definition of legal would prevail.
Good thing world war 2 made him back off from his domestic communist agenda and apply it to developing the military.

 

[achilles28]

Quote from LEAPup:

People had better wake up quick, or we can turn the lights out on america Yes, it's sad to see the Obama lovers defend the evil shit he's done, and currently doing...

Sadly, I think America is done. After the dollar implodes and the country gets turned upside down, the parasites (of whom they are legion), will clamor for Government action. So they will act. And that will be the end.

 

[pspr]

Quote from bigarrow:

Who's the dictator ?

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[LEAPup]

Quote from achilles28:

Sadly, I think America is done. After the dollar implodes and the country gets turned upside down, the parasites (of whom they are legion), will clamor for Government action. So they will act. And that will be the end.

I fear the same thing.

 

[jem]

I think what we really have to do is put up the fence.
Scale most of the benefits down over time to levels which encourage work and balance the budget.

We have let in many Mexicans but their culture still has a great number of men who are honest and have a very strong work ethic. I am not mexican and my wifes family is from holland but I live in San Diego and interact with mexicans in my business and my burrito eating.

Tons of mexicans are honest and hard working.


What we really have is a race.

The democrats are trying to turn them into a dependent voter class... and that is not the nature of the mexican men who come here IMO.

If we stop this democrat crap now... we could wind up in good shape in 20 years.

But, we have to gain control soon.
Perhaps it is too late for us in California as the socialist dems are pretty entrenched but it might not be too late for the rest the US

 

[LEAPup]

Quote from jem:

I think what we really have to do is put up the fence.
Scale most of the benefits down over time to levels which encourage work and balance the budget.

We have let in many Mexicans but their culture still has a great number of men who are honest and have a very strong work ethic. I am not mexican and my wifes family is from holland but I live in San Diego and interact with mexicans in my business and my burrito eating.

Tons of mexicans are honest and hard working.


What we really have is a race.

The democrats are trying to turn them into a dependent voter class... and that is not the nature of the mexican men who come here IMO.

If we stop this democrat crap now... we could wind up in good shape in 20 years.

But, we have to gain control soon.
Perhaps it is too late for us in California as the socialist dems are pretty entrenched but it might not be too late for the rest the US

Not to go ot, but I actually like San Diego. Best Friend lives in La Jolla. And yes, I've rode the red lind down to San Ysidro (spelling?), and gone over to tj with friends many times. Would I do that now? Oh hell no!
Do like San Diego though.

 

[jem]

I use to go to Tijuana or a little south once or twice a year, also. Then it got too dangerous.

San Diego is still great... how ever the cost of living relative to earnings can be rough.

If you have kids and you are trying to squeeze into the good school districts you do not get much of home until you pay about a million dollars.

 

[fhl]

The defenders of NSA spying say they're only looking for terrorists with their spying.

DHS's Janet Napolitano's report on potential terrorists included returning veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan and right wing extremists, which include "“those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely.”
“It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” said the report, which also listed gun owners and veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as potential risks."


That's who the gov't thinks are potential terrorists, per their 2009 report.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/16/napolitano-stands-rightwing-extremism/?page=all

That's who the NSA is looking for. The same people the IRS is looking for. What a coincidence.