For one of my first outside investors, who had put in something like $250k (roughly 10% of the fund)... I promptly lost 12% for him 2 weeks into his new investment.Quote from bone:
If you're a CTA with managed accounts from what I have seen a 10 % drawdown in a month will doom you in terms of client redemptions and mass exodus. I have had several CTA's tell me that they strongly entertain the notion of ending the client business and return back to trading their own capital.
Quote from heech:
That story had a happy ending (so far!), as I've made him quite a bit of money in the past 2.5 years. But it could very easily have gone the other way. There were at least 3-4 times in the first 2 years where I seriously wanted to run away and hide.
you continually make a case for closed end fundsQuote from bone:
One of my local Chicago CTA clients confided in me that during the course of the 2008 crash, he had a drawdown of like 3% as I recall and he still got hammered with redemptions. Just big investors needing cash. When he told me that story I later checked the Barron's CTA performance metrics and my impression was that he had fared better than most during that period. But he still lost about 90 % of his AUM. Had nothing to do with his fund's performance per se - just big investors who desperately needed cash for margin calls elsewhere and they went to the managed account with the quickest liquidation terms.