What would you say belongs in a solid trading plan?

Hello bone,

Thank you so much for the response.

Regarding sizing plan. I often read or hear, do not risk more than 2% per trade on trading capital. Are you stating , in your opinion, that there is nothing wrong with risking 5 to 10% if it fits the trader temperament.

No, my feeling is counter to your post. Risking 5 to 10 percent on a trade is asinine with one exception: you are really, really wealthy and most of your assets are not included in your trading account.

Let me clarify what I meant: that a certain number of inexperienced traders feel quite uncomfortable risking 2 percent on a single trade - and my strong feeling is for that trader to own that emotion and risk less. It is very debilitating to an inexperienced trader (and many experienced traders, too) to dig a deep hole for themselves. I am a firm believer in grinding out income and building up account equity - big bets are usually a disaster for most mere mortals.
 
Bone,

How is one lot the most difficult? Just scale up to 2 lot once account balance double.

For example what is wrong with the bottom approach for scale up.

Balance equal $10000 -----> 1 contract
Balance equal $20000 -----> 2 contract
Balance equal $30000 -----> 3 contract

If you are trading flat price outrights - trading one lot futures with less than $25K is sheer stupidity from my experience, with micro contracts being an exception. I had an ET Member PM me that he had lost $80K in six months trading outright one lots in CL. It's not hard to do.

You can trade literally tens of thousands of futures spread combinations with very modest account equity - it's the cheapest way to trade futures that I know of. For example, a 1-2-1 Eurodollar Butterfly costs about $175 initial margin.
 
If you are trading flat price outrights - trading one lot futures with less than $25K is sheer stupidity from my experience, with micro contracts being an exception. I had an ET Member PM me that he had lost $80K in six months trading outright one lots in CL. It's not hard to do.

You can trade literally tens of thousands of futures spread combinations with very modest account equity - it's the cheapest way to trade futures that I know of. For example, a 1-2-1 Eurodollar Butterfly costs about $175 initial margin.
Bone,

Excuse my ignorance, but I am not sure I understand what price outfights mean. I just trade CL futures, 1 contract. I would think $25K is enough.
 
Bone,

Excuse my ignorance, but I am not sure I understand what price outfights mean. I just trade CL futures, 1 contract. I would think $25K is enough.

An outright is a straight up unhedged postion - like buying a CL futures contract.

In terms of capitalization - depends entirely upon your trading system.
 
But what if the trader is trading only one contract at a time, and cannot reduce the size of the position?

"After two losses in a row - cut your position sizing in half. When you can manage two winning days in a row - go back to your previous position size..."
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OK;
another way to do it. Rich Dennis said ''get your head out of the mixer, when losing '' And he traded more than one lots........................................................
 
A list of questions you may want to ask before placing a trade.
for example
# 7 – Is My Position Size Calculated Properly?
If you were trading the YM and you saw a trade opportunity that entailed a 15-point stop loss, how many contracts would you trade if you could take a market risk of $500 per trade (or 2% of $25k)? The answer is 6 contracts.

Risk/stop loss = $ per tick value.
$500/15 = $33 per tick.
Each YM contract moves $5 per tick. So, to get close to $33 per tick, you need 6 contracts, as 6 x $5 per tick = $30 per tick.

https://optimusfutures.com/tradeblog/archives/futures-trading-technical-analysis-diy-audit
 
a tip of the hat to sstheo for his post from which this was lifted,

1) Don't rush
2) Keep it small at the beginning
3) Grow gradually
4) Adapt with the market volatility
5) Keep it simple
6) Micros are a great way to control risk
7) Honor your stops
8) Set a daily goal and stop when you reach it
9) Have a big goal to motivate you
10) Keep a journal and maybe even post it to keep yourself publicly accountable

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/thre...0-at-2-00-per-day.339591/page-64#post-5074912
 
"Say maybe just three or four essentials".

More like hundreds. Everyone thinks this going to be so easy, buy the dip, but it is not that easy.
Takes years to figure out if you going to be a Soros or someone who is going to grind it out and take in direction of big money. For me, was better to be a grinder, make something, anything each day, week, month, year, early years it is inverse.


The complete guide to the futures markets. Fundamental analysis, technical analysis, trading, spreads, and options, by Jack Swagger, I got it in 1985

There are no right or wrong moving averages. Many on here don't trade and yet I have gotten very good ideas from them. Secret to my way of trading is studying extremes on charting, finding patterns that most over look, so you end up not taking last signals as market is changing trend, then identifying other chart patterns that show continuation of current trend, support and resistance, clusters of highs/lows will either produce entry or stop me from buying into resitance. Risk management should take the longest time of management of the whether to take signal at all based on past time of charts, existing trade, knowing all the answers in case any problem happens, this will take years/decades as some problems don't happen all the time, learn to take losses and not ruin your day, if you not having any losses in a day means you not trading enough.

Swagger's book offers great ideas, but you have to think outside the box for entries, go wild and think of off the wall and always sim, back test great deal, it is your hard earned money at risk.

After 42 years of trading, it has gotten so boring, and yet have so much knowledge and it takes so many years to acquire. When people say it can't be done, either they doing it and don't want you to figure it out or they can't do something. People don't like others to suceed.
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AND any leverage is the WORST way to learn...………………………………………………………………...
 
To GraceWilson goes a Tip of the Hat for her post from which this was lifted

Here are some tips to follow if you are new to trading-

• Develop a trading strategy and always adhere to it.
• Set a stop - loss for every trade. Otherwise, failure is almost certain.
• Don't risk more than 2% of your margin per single trade.
• Keep your emotions separate from trading.
• Never trade to compensate for your losses.
• Only trade when you feel it's the right moment.
• Don't be afraid of losses, every trader has them.
• Try to achieve more profitable trades, and have less unsuccessful trades.
https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/tips-for-become-a-good-trader.335906/page-3#post-5099425
 
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