what would be the result of abolishing minimum wage?

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The standard criticism of the minimum wage is that it raises employers' costs and reduces employment opportunities for teenagers and disadvantaged workers. However, several studies have found that the last two increases in the minimum wage had an insignificant effect on employment. Furthermore, an extension of the time-series studies that had previously been used to claim that raising the minimum wage decreases employment, no longer finds a significant impact.

In a recent review of the literature, Professor Richard Freeman of Harvard, a widely respected labor economist, wrote: "At the level of the minimum wage in the late 1980s, moderate legislated increases did not reduce employment and were, if anything, associated with higher employment in some locales."

In discussing the minimum wage, Robert M. Solow, a Nobel laureate in economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, recently told the New York Times, "The main thing about (minimum wage) research is that the evidence of job loss is weak. And the fact that the evidence is weak suggests that the impact on jobs is small."

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Textbook gibberish vs real world.

what is your point?
in any case you should always include the following in your posts to make sure that everybody understands your political and economic beliefs.
"At least they are reasonable in that Obama is still president at year end. It is kind of difficult to envision one of the clown car participants at the White House, but then again, people did vote for Generalissimo Bush twice."
 
Quote from strantor:

If minimum wage were abolished tomorrow, what do you think would be the effect? I just had this discussion with a family member. said family member is very adamant that "something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it, including labor" - which I almost totally agree with, except in the area of the minimum wage. He thinks that there should be no minimum wage, and all wages should be determined by supply and demand. I think that if there were no minimum wage, people with no skills would make so little that the burden on the tax payers would be substantially increased. I think it would be a bad move. I think the companies would rape the people. However, I have heard some very compelling arguments to the contrary. what are your thoughts?

While we are at it, let's abolish the minimum age needed to work. After all this also constrains the free labor market. Obviously all of those safety laws are also skewing the free market.

I hope those who want to live under the conditions of the past enjoy having their children work in factories under unsafe conditions. Of course, they would be unemployed because children are much cheaper. Hope they would enjoy re-living the days before all of these labor laws were passed. Naturally, the rich factory owners would never take advantage of the workers or impose abusive working conditions due to the benevolence in their hearts.
 
Quote from achilles28:

^If that's the case, then why not raise the minimum wage to 50 dollars an hour? Heck, why not pay everyone 1,000 dollars an hour! We'll all get rich.


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Quote from gwb-trading:

While we are at it, let's abolish the minimum age needed to work. After all this also constrains the free labor market. Obviously all of those safety laws are also skewing the free market.

I hope those who want to live under the conditions of the past enjoy having their children work in factories under unsafe conditions. Of course, they would be unemployed because children are much cheaper. Hope they would enjoy re-living the days before all of these labor laws were passed. Naturally, the rich factory owners would never take advantage of the workers or impose abusive working conditions due to the benevolence in their hearts.

Jibber-jabber!
 
Quote from hoodooman:

Hows about a maximum wage limit. That would stop a lot of what's wrong with america.:D

Every now and then, not too often mind you, someone posts a remark on ET that is worth some extra thought. Hoodooman's is one of those remarks that gives one pause. It's worth thinking about.
 
Quote from piezoe:

Every now and then, not too often mind you, someone posts a remark on ET that is worth some extra thought. Hoodooman's is one of those remarks that gives one pause. It's worth thinking about.

I agree in principle. But better is a logarithmic graded tax rate system with no specific levels. However, consideration should be given to the length of the income. Ie. athletes should be given more leeway since their expected income time period is not as long as others.

I don't buy the argument that if the wealthy were taxed a little more that they would stop working. They didn't stop working during the Clinton era and the taxes were higher for them then.

By all measure our society has grown to be more inequitable over the last thirty years. The few are getting richer and everyone else is getting poorer. Like Ron Paul says, welfare in the US is for the rich, for the military industrial complex. The right would have us demonize the poor but it's the oligarchy in the US that is the problem.

1 % owns 40% of the wealth in America. Try telling me that is not a problem.
 
Quote from hoodooman:

Hows about a maximum wage limit. That would stop a lot of what's wrong with america.:D

Actually though, many professions have max wage benefits and people who realize this or reach them are plow horses, plodding along earning their max wage benefit and for the most part shirking their duties or doing just enough to get by, productivity suffers, no energy, no motivation. They are in a rut.

Union workers reach a max wage scale, state and fed workers, to name a few.

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Minus a min wage, how would one ever write a business plan? If you need 10 lumpers for your business, what's the rate of pay in your business plan? $7.25 or 2 bucks? Min wage provide a startiing point not just in a dollar and cent scenario but provides the owner with a starting point in productivity per widget producer.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

I agree in principle. But better is a logarithmic graded tax rate system with no specific levels. However, consideration should be given to the length of the income. Ie. athletes should be given more leeway since their expected income time period is not as long as others.

Why do we have levels anyway because it's "simpler". we have like, computers? Input your salary and out comes the taxes. we can have a perfect progressive system where earning 1% more does not make your taxes jump 10%.
 
how much is an hour worth?

665,760

divided by 24 equals 27,740

divided by 365 equals 76

which is the actuarial life span of an average man
 
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