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What The Moonbats Don't Understand
- Thread starter hapaboy
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Quote from Haroki:
7 is 'scooped out'.
Photos, fireman's eyewitness accounts
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
ok.. that is a nice small hole. clearly not capable of bringing down a modern bldg... gosh.. i wonder how fema missed such a big hole??? C-
Quote from Haroki:
Madrid building-
Different construction, and the steel portions did, in fact, collapse.
http://www.911myths.com/html/madrid_windsor_tower.html
no one said it didnt suffer, DUHHHHHHHHH.... but the building never collapsed dumbazz. F-
Quote from Haroki:
This looks real - pretty BIG fires
Photos, video
http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc7_fire.html
are you trying to prove my point for me??? i see very small manageable fires. where am i wrong? if you are talking about the smoke/clouds, we have no idea when those photos were taken and what the source of the smoke/cloud is.
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Quote from ratboy88:
are you trying to prove my point for me??? i see very small manageable fires. where am i wrong? if you are talking about the smoke/clouds, we have no idea when those photos were taken and what the source of the smoke/cloud is.
D+
http://www.911myths.com/WTC7_Smoke.avi
Quote from ratboy88:
no one said it didnt suffer, DUHHHHHHHHH.... but the building never collapsed dumbazz. F-
But the areas without concrete encased steel, which is similar construction as 1,2 &7, DID collapse.
The steel columns above the 17th floor suffered complete collapse, partially coming to rest on the upper technical floor.
http://www.concretecentre.com/main.asp?page=1095
Yes, it failed. Other photos reveal how the concrete was all that was left on the upper floors.
Quote from Haroki:
Full quote, rebuttal
A video is shown on just about every conspiracy web site which shows a few fireman discussing what they heard and saw.
fireman2: We made it outside, we made it about a block.
fireman1: We made it at least 2 blocks.
fireman2: 2 blocks.
fireman1: and we started runnin'
fireman2: poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch
fireman1: Floor by floor it started poppin' out â¦
fireman2: It was as if as if they had detonated, detâ¦
fireman1: yea detonated yea
fireman2: as if they had planned to take down a building,
boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boomâ¦
In the context of reading it off a conspiracy site this may sound like damming evidence. They are saying âdetonatedâ and âthey had planned to take down a buildingâ. They even say âBoomâ to describe the sound. But if you hear the other things theyâre saying, their body language and context outside the conspiracy theory setting, something else emerges. Before or after every description is âAs ifâ. âAs if they had planned to take down a buildingâ. âIt was as if as if they had detonatedâ. They also use body language to show it was the sound of the floors crashing into one another.
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boom- (hand moves down)
boomâ¦
This could be just as powerful evidence of pancaking as the use of explosives. But the real evidence isnât so much examining the video as examining the actions taken, or NOT taken, by the NYC Fire Department after the event. The NYC Fire Department hasnât rallied its members to force an investigation into the possible murder of over 300 of its members. Some sites offer an explanation of this saying there was a gag order placed on the Fire Department. The only place you will find this is on conspiracy theory sites. No mention from main stream press about the hundreds if not thousands of fireman on the scene not being allowed to talk.
this is tripe. it doesnt matter who's site the video is on... the firemen are not conspiracy kooks (yet). they are just talking about their experiences and they are above reproach in doing so. dont you dare try to spin what they are saying. there are hundreds of witnesses that say the same thing.
"no mention from the mainstream press". are you living under a fkn rock????? that was horrendously stupid. you should have edited that out. i am weary of your competence.
........and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, weâll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/mag...e/gz/boyle.html
the link doesnt work genius.
An investigation is underway between Spanish technical agency Intemac and UK authorities including Arup Fire, the University of Edinburgh and the concrete industry including Cembureau, BCA and The Concrete Centre. Preliminary findings suggest that a combination of the upper technical floor and the excellent passive fire resistance of the tower's concrete columns and core prevented total building collapse
The fire is significant in terms of its potential similarities between the collapse of the building's steel frame above the 17th floor and the experience seen at the World Trade Center. Notably, one of the recommendations of NIST's interim report on the World Trade Center disaster is for tall building design to incorporate 'strong points' within the frame.
http://www.concretecentre.com/main.asp?page=1095
Here, the Madrid Tower is compared to the WTC. Do you understand now why the different construction - the use of concrete in the support columns - resulted in a different outcome? And do you see where the areas that were similar to the WTC actually did fall?
The fire is significant in terms of its potential similarities between the collapse of the building's steel frame above the 17th floor and the experience seen at the World Trade Center. Notably, one of the recommendations of NIST's interim report on the World Trade Center disaster is for tall building design to incorporate 'strong points' within the frame.
http://www.concretecentre.com/main.asp?page=1095
Here, the Madrid Tower is compared to the WTC. Do you understand now why the different construction - the use of concrete in the support columns - resulted in a different outcome? And do you see where the areas that were similar to the WTC actually did fall?