What the hell is with all the rabid antisemitism on this site the last couple days?

[Hello]

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For the record, I don't like chest-drummers of any persuasion, and (some) jews are perhaps the most enduring of these.

Can you explain, or give me an example? I am honestly trying to understand why liberals seem to dislike jewish people so much.

If someone could give me a valid example maybe i would understand, but if you come at me with something about how muslims are persecuted and jews are the reason i will be forced to call bullshit right off the bat.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Hello:

Can you explain, or give me an example? I am honestly trying to understand why liberals seem to dislike jewish people so much...

That is a very broad generalization. I don't speak as a liberal myself, as I'm a commie, but I will say that my take on liberals is that they tend to champion the underdogs of society. Since jews are, by their own calculations, the sole occupants of the other end of society, they'll get little love from liberals.

Now, as conservatives seem to champion the white, rich and powerful, it makes sense why they tend to defend the joos, who at the very least resemble those things.

Edit: oh, examples. "God's chosen people". "The winners of more Nobel prizes...". Etc. Anyway, don't blame it on liberals, the first people Hitler killed were the socialists, not the joos. And the hate goes way back before that, of course.

 

[Hello]

Ok, so then what i said in my post just before basically sums it up, liberals dont like Jewish people mostly because they are succesful. Well thx for the honest reply i guess.

Though i will say this, i have never in my life heard a jewish person say he thinks he is one of "gods chosen people", maybe it is somewhere in the scripture or somewhere in fundamentalist areas of Israel but i can honestly i have never heard a jewish person say that to me.

In terms of Nobel prizes facts are facts. All I have to be proud of my german heritage is a volkswagon..... I would gladly trade having most nobel prizes with creating good cars. There is nothing wrong with being proud of ones heritage.

I find it extremely ironic that conservatives are called nazi's but liberals hate jews.

Quote from Ricter:

That is a very broad generalization. I don't speak as a liberal myself, as I'm a commie, but I will say that my take on liberals is that they tend to champion the underdogs of society. Since jews are, by their own calculations, the sole occupants of the other end of society, they'll get little love from liberals.

Now, as conservatives seem to champion the white, rich and powerful, it makes sense why they tend to defend the joos, who at the very least resemble those things.

Edit: oh, examples. "God's chosen people". "The winners of more Nobel prizes...". Etc. Anyway, don't blame it on liberals, the first people Hitler killed were the socialists, not the joos. And the hate goes way back before that, of course.

 

[omegapoint]

Quote from Hello:

Ok, so then what i said in my post just before basically sums it up, liberals dont like Jewish people solely because they are succesful. Well thx for the honest reply i guess.

Though i will say this, i have never in my life heard a jewish person say he thinks he is one of "gods chosen people", maybe it is somewhere in the scripture or somewhere in fundamentalist areas of Israel but i can honestly i have never heard a jewish person say that to me.

In terms of Nobel prizes facts are facts. All I have to be proud of my german heritage is a volkswagon..... I would gladly trade having most nobel prizes with creating good cars. There is nothing wrong with being proud of ones heritage.

I find it extremely ironic that conservatives are called nazi's but liberals hate jews.

why don't you tell him what he thinks or what you want to think he thinks, then you can have a debate with yourself.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Hello:

...I find it extremely ironic that conservatives are called nazi's but...

Well, that probably comes from the association of conservatives with the right-wing death squads who've operated in the Western hemisphere for the last century or so. And many people, rightly or wrongly, (something we've been discussing right here), still consider Hitler a far right-winger.

 

[Hello]

What you said is very true. I was about to respond to my own post above by apologising for lumping in all liberals in the same basket, it is a problem i still face, cause im stuck in the right vs. left thing.

I wanted to say this though. Too often we try to put psychopaths like hitler, stalin, Mao into a right vs. left segment when what we really should be thinking about is whether or not the person was just a psychopath who believed in the right or left axiom. Generally speaking it isnt the right or left train of thought which leads a guy into being a mas murder it is the fact that the person involved is a lunatic. Instead of labelling a guy a lunatic first and a conservative second, we label him a conservative first and a lunatic second, and vice versa.

What i mean is this, the other day Maverick74 talked about judging a person solely because on their actions. Well if you were to judge someone like hitler or staling by their actions, there really isnt anything in the right or left wing ideology which would exonerate the mass murder of millions of people. Yet we still choose to fight based on these right/left principles.

Instead of us trying to just call these people psychopaths we try to put a left or right brand on them as if it gives one side some sort of moral high ground. The way we should be thinking with people who are clearly psychotic is not by first judging whether or not they are right or left, but by first judging whether or not they were a complete fucking psychopath. If you find out someone is a lunatic their political background shouldndt make a difference.

I made a mistake today by labelling all liberals with the same brush where as i should have just judged certain psychopaths as a whole. Its not as if it is the political ideology which is causing people to become crazy. Crazy people will become crazy regardless of the side they lie on.

Anyways i hope this doesnt sound like pointless drivel, i apologise for my overgeneralizations above.

Quote from Ricter:

Well, that probably comes from the association of conservatives with the right-wing death squads who've operated in the Western hemisphere for the last century or so. And many people, rightly or wrongly, (something we've been discussing right here), still consider Hitler a far right-winger.

 

[Petsamo]

Quote from Hello:

Instead of us trying to just call these people psychopaths we try to put a left or right brand on them as if it gives one side some sort of moral high ground.

That psychopath who threatened the Discovery Channel employees was motivated by Al Gore's global warming hoax (story). There's no doubt he's a brain-washed leftist wacko.

Regarding Hitler, there are legitimate arguments that he was a leftist socialist, so I'm not convinced that he was a far right winger.

 

[Hello]

Quote from Petsamo:

That psychopath who threatened the Discovery Channel employees was motivated by Al Gore's global warming hoax (story). There's no doubt he's a brain-washed leftist wacko.

Regarding Hitler, there are legitimate arguments that he was a leftist socialist, so I'm not convinced that he was a far right winger.

You are a part of the problem, im still trying to figure out whether or not you are someones sick parody of a right winger.

 

[Hello]

What you think is fairly obvious.

Quote from omegapoint:

why don't you tell him what he thinks or what you want to think he thinks, then you can have a debate with yourself.

 

[phenomena]

Bullshit of course, as Hitler WAS a socialist.

Quote from Ricter:

That is a very broad generalization. I don't speak as a liberal myself, as I'm a commie, but I will say that my take on liberals is that they tend to champion the underdogs of society. Since jews are, by their own calculations, the sole occupants of the other end of society, they'll get little love from liberals.

Now, as conservatives seem to champion the white, rich and powerful, it makes sense why they tend to defend the joos, who at the very least resemble those things.

Edit: oh, examples. "God's chosen people". "The winners of more Nobel prizes...". Etc. Anyway, don't blame it on liberals, the first people Hitler killed were the socialists, not the joos. And the hate goes way back before that, of course.