What the American media hid from you about the Qana massacre

Quote from traderNik:

Ok, man... I have tried to say, for the past three posts, that I will try to be less demeaning. My question about which theory you subscribe to was dead serious. If you subscribe to one of these theories, it shouldn't bother you to be asked which one it is. There are two separate theories that I have heard about. You say you don't know and you are just asking question about elements of the attacks that aren't sufficiently explained by the prevalent theory. Fine, but at some point you have to develop a theory about what the hell happened if KSM didn't train a group of young men, that they didn't come to America and blend in, that the pilots didn't go to flights schools, and that they didn't board the aircraft in question that day, and that they didn't take over the aircraft and fly them into those buildings.

You have to come up with something, don't you?

With regard to the quote above, are you saying that all the footage we have seen of the planes hitting the WTC buildings, including all the amateur footage, has been faked?

By the way, it has always struck me as strange that a plane the size of a jetliner could crash into the Pentagon and leave such an apparently small hole, unless it crashed way before the building and just a small chunk of it slid forward and took out that small section.

Or maybe it's just that I am not familiar with the scale of the building and the chunk is actually huge, but it doesn't look like it in pictures.

These questions don't make me question the fact that KSM trained a group of Arab men and that they perpetrated these attacks.

as i said i dont subscribe to any thoeries since they are just what they are--thoeries--am just commentin' on the evidence presented by the government that is easly refutable...i dont know who exactly orchestrated the attacks but i speculate the goverment has had complicity in it [to what extent i dont know]...i of course question the fact those terrorists have really nosedived incredibly difficult to control planes into the towers and this since all of 'em have been found alive and well in thier respective countries, protestin' their innocence; even the judge in the moussari trial admitted there was not a shred of evidence those names were connected in any ways to the attacks.
 
Quote from traderNik:

What is so hard to explain about this, if indeed it is true that such buying occurred (if you would educate me and post the links that prove this, I would appreciate it, and I would like real links, not John's Conspiracies 'R Us - this is one 'fact' that should be very easy to confirm).

If I were planning an attack of this kind and I was as financially sophisticated as OBL and his buddies, I would buy puts too!

(By the way, some bs artist here characterized OBL as a goatherd living in a cave on dialysis... yeah, that's accurate. The guy comes from a family worth billions.. yeah, he's just an unsophisticated goatherd.. yep. Wasn't it Sun-Tzu who said 'Know your enemy'?).

And furthermore... if Bush and Cheny organized the attacks, would they buy puts?? Understanding the eventual spikes in oil price that would net them tens of billions (since the War was also part of the plan, I am assuming), and the billions they would make through KBR and HAL contracts, they would buy puts that could be traced, to make a few tens of millions?


the problem is that those responsible have very little interest in investigatin' suspicious financial transactions related to 9/11 since they are part of a massive cover-up; u just cannot rely on any investigation initiated by branches of the government if it was involved in the first place. infact even more suspicious is that after the pathetic investigation was over they reached the conclusion that nobody connected to al qaeda had any involvement in the purchase of those puts, conveniently brushin' away the obvious conclusion that those transactions were initiated by an american livin' in your homeland that had some knowledge of the comin' attacks.
by the way all this stuff has been discussed previously and i already provided the links on the 9/11 thread.

here's one link:

http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/stockputs.html

i also wonder what kinda answers u could ever find to the very intelligent questions mr reardoniz has raised months ago on this thread, in connection to insider tradin' and foreknowledge of the attacks, here's the link for ya:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65235&perpage=6&pagenumber=7
 
nick--can u also please explain what caused all the numerous explosions inside the towers...u could hear 'em very clearly from your tv. and how on earth can it be just a coincidence that some suspicious fellas evacuated the buildings the day before the attacks to make some kinda 'urgent' repairs? many other questions comin'...keep tuned.
 
Quote from Bitstream:

nick--can u also please explain what caused all the numerous explosions inside the towers...u could hear 'em very clearly from your tv. and how on earth can it be just a coincidence that some suspicious fellas evacuated the buildings the day before the attacks to make some kinda 'urgent' repairs? many other questions comin'...keep tuned.

Okay. It's pretty clear to me that I could never provide you with enough answers that you would say to me "You know what? You're right! Those answers convince me that 9/11 wasn't an inside job". Conversely, I have seen nothing which would make me believe that the Bush family orchestrated the attacks. Is it possible that the Bush family, by virtue of their alleged pre-9/11 ties with the Bin Laden Group, was told in advance about the attacks?

It beggars belief, but I would be a fool to say that such a thing were completely impossible. Not much is impossible, except for zEvader ever taking responsibility for his posts, maybe.

I'll check out the link you provided.
 
Quote from traderNik:

Okay. It's pretty clear to me that I could never provide you with enough answers that you would say to me "You know what? You're right! Those answers convince me that 9/11 wasn't an inside job". Conversely, I have seen nothing which would make me believe that the Bush family orchestrated the attacks. Is it possible that the Bush family, by virtue of their alleged pre-9/11 ties with the Bin Laden Group, was told in advance about the attacks?

It beggars belief, but I would be a fool to say that such a thing were completely impossible. Not much is impossible, except for zEvader ever taking responsibility for his posts, maybe.

I'll check out the link you provided.


i dont think bin laden has anythin' to do with 9/11 at all. maybe u recall that soon after the attacks this oil admn came up with a fake video with an old geezer not even close resemblin' obl talkin' about the attacks. look, u gotta notice theres a pattern here, if u are a trader u just cant ignore it, can u? there's a freakin' sea of contradictions that point at the obvious. also think about who benefited [politically, financially] from the atrocities...like durin' an fbi investigation, u first look at who could have gain somethin' from it; who did have the oppportunity, the motives...look at how the bush's agenda became alive all of the sudden...who could start 2 wars, secure masssive contracts with companies with whom he had close ties and make enormous amount of money from the cosequent oil price rise.

it sure beggars belief nick, it sure does.
 
Quote from Bitstream:

nick--can u also please explain what caused all the numerous explosions inside the towers...u could hear 'em very clearly from your tv. and how on earth can it be just a coincidence that some suspicious fellas evacuated the buildings the day before the attacks to make some kinda 'urgent' repairs? many other questions comin'...keep tuned.

This right here is the inherent weakness of democracies.

Dupes or stooges...
And bitstream is clearly a willfull, calculated stooge...
Work tirelessly to undermine their own societies.

Anytime a democracy survives another year is a miracle.
 
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Quote from HoundDogOne:

This right here is the inherent weakness of democracies.

Dupes or stooges...
And bitstream is clearly a willfull, calculated stooge...
Work tirelessly to undermine their own societies.

Anytime a democracy survives another year is a miracle.
 
Quote from HoundDogOne:

This right here is the inherent weakness of democracies.

Dupes or stooges...
And bitstream is clearly a willfull, calculated stooge...
Work tirelessly to undermine their own societies.

Anytime a democracy survives another year is a miracle.

yes, our government represent the society at large; infact the gov is the society itself. thx for provin' u are nothin' but a tool.
 
Quote from Bitstream:

i dont think bin laden has anythin' to do with 9/11 at all.

I don't know what to say. I just do not know what to say to that, assuming you include KSM.
 
Quote from Bitstream:

i dont think bin laden has anythin' to do with 9/11 at all. maybe u recall that soon after the attacks this oil admn came up with a fake video with an old geezer not even close resemblin' obl talkin' about the attacks. look, u gotta notice theres a pattern here, if u are a trader u just cant ignore it, can u? there's a freakin' sea of contradictions that point at the obvious. also think about who benefited [politically, financially] from the atrocities...like durin' an fbi investigation, u first look at who could have gain somethin' from it; who did have the oppportunity, the motives...look at how the bush's agenda became alive all of the sudden...who could start 2 wars, secure masssive contracts with companies with whom he had close ties and make enormous amount of money from the cosequent oil price rise.

it sure beggars belief nick, it sure does.

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