the conflict is about as black an white as you can get. It's like bothsiding the Holocaust because Germans were shafted in Versailles.
What Russia said... and the Western lie press suppresses
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Russia invading Ukraine has got nothing to do with US in the same way US invading Iraq was because of WMD's.
You are arguing a disingenuous strawmen like Cheney and Bush.
Additionally, let me ask --- was the intent of the Iraq invasion by a coalition to permanently seize Iraq and make it part of the U.S. ?
You know... like Russia is doing in the Ukraine.
Did the U.S. kidnap thousands of Iraqi children and take them to the U.S. as a form of ethnic cleansing?
Russia didn't want to seize all of Ukraine, just some regions in the south and west along with a puppet government installed by them in Kyiv, US goals in Iraq was a puppet/complicit government with a permanent base in the middle east, not the same but bit similar.
Russia of course is more into war crimes like you mentioned above, they do not have checks and balances or public pressure like in the US to restrain themselves.
GWB is known for uninformed hyperbole. How do you quantify it? Over what time period? only current countries known as past empires or old empires allowed too? China can be considered a 4k yr country w/long periods of empire building, which dynasty?. When I think old world colonizers, I don't even think England as I find the Spanish and Portuguese much more brutal in their conquest. The Spanish by and large wiped out natives unintentionally but w/o much care either through disease. Does that death count "count" since it was not intentional? Do we consider the death rate in our estimate? Death as ratio of population (I wouldn't think so)?
Russia's "ocean" to their colonies was on land and a lot of the brutality remains suppressed or has been lost or unrecorded.
FWIW, first thing that came to mind was Ghengis Khan, Spanish, Roman
Brits really screwed up their record on Indian famine.
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