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What really happened ....11 september
- Thread starter NickBarings
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isnt it a awefully strange coincidence norad was running a strategy sim on freaking aircrafts hitting buildings? right on 9/11 and apparently the first sim of this kind. it defies the odds of a coincidence.
Quote from man:
i am very interested in evidence and - really - i am still
open to arguments. nevertheless i think that we guys
here really can not perfectly judge what happened to
an extent to entitle name giving.
did you guys ever read the leuchter report on auschwitz
lie? sounds really convincing somehow. then see the
documentation on fred leuchter and everything just
vanishes.
what i am trying to say is: be sceptic to both sides in
an emotional case like this. it is not necessary that
people are lying, just maybe have some distortion of
their memory due to preformed opinion. just consider
the lieutenant had said: "as if they had ordered that
we stay down." cut out part of it and you have "evidence".
no intentional misunderstanding. just normal stuff. but
in this context: morning of 911, norad center, lieutenant
"orders", things start to get a meaning that never was
there.
Quote from Bitstream:
isnt it a awefully strange coincidence norad was running a strategy sim on freaking aircrafts hitting buildings? right on 9/11 and apparently the first sim of this kind. it defies the odds of a coincidence.
Everyone blames everyone except the terrorists.
Suppose there was suspicion of a hijacking? What were they supposed to do about it? About all they could do is run sims. About all they could do is react after the fact. There were all kinds of intelligence reports of possible attacks just like there are now.
How well do you think banning all passengers that looked like Arabs of the Middle East would go over?
If terrorists are going to hijack a plane, they will one way or another.
Like suspicious activity that occurs now, there is even more opposition to what the authorities are allowed to do for fear of upsetting those of middle eastern descent.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/woods.htm
Claim: Actor James Woods observed and reported four hijackers making a trial run on an airline flight before the September 11 terrorist attacks on America.
Status: True.
A great deal of "What if?" soul-searching and hand-wringing follows in the wake of any disaster. Should we have foreseen it coming? Would lives and property have been saved if we had taken preventive measures? Did we miss signs we should have noticed, or ignore signs we should have heeded?
James Woods had noticed four men "of Middle Eastern appearance" acting strangely on a flight he made from Boston to Los Angeles a week before the hijackings, but when he reported his suspicions, they were not taken seriously: Woods mentioned what he had noticed to a flight attendant, "who shrugged it off"
I suppose the flight attendant is in on the conspiracy too.
Woods is pro Bush, so I suppose he's part of the conspiracy. He knew about it before anyone, but did nothing.
I bet there are people that are hoping for another huge terrorist attack while Bush is in office. These people will first blame Bush for the failure to prevent that act, then years later they will say it's part of the conspiracy.
the terrorists cannot be blamed because they have been found alive and well in their respective countries. u can believe what u wish, there are too many anomalies and one of kind events that have no precedents like atta's passport been found with no scratches in the middle of the same inferno that melted black boxes [another one of kind event with no precedent]... wtc7 the 3rd building in history going down cuz of fire, and is the 3rd cuz the first and the second are the two towers. circumstantial evidence that points at government involvement it's also all over the map...from condi telling brownie not to fly on 9/11 to the memo released by cheney about the need a new catalyzing event like pearl arbor. sorry, u may be able to but i cant brush away this stuff as mere coincidence.
Quote from FightTheFuture:
Everyone blames everyone except the terrorists.
Suppose there was suspicion of a hijacking? What were they supposed to do about it? About all they could do is run sims. About all they could do is react after the fact. There were all kinds of intelligence reports of possible attacks just like there are now.
How well do you think banning all passengers that looked like Arabs of the Middle East would go over?
If terrorists are going to hijack a plane, they will one way or another.
Like suspicious activity that occurs now, there is even more opposition to what the authorities are allowed to do for fear of upsetting those of middle eastern descent.
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/woods.htm
Claim: Actor James Woods observed and reported four hijackers making a trial run on an airline flight before the September 11 terrorist attacks on America.
Status: True.
A great deal of "What if?" soul-searching and hand-wringing follows in the wake of any disaster. Should we have foreseen it coming? Would lives and property have been saved if we had taken preventive measures? Did we miss signs we should have noticed, or ignore signs we should have heeded?
James Woods had noticed four men "of Middle Eastern appearance" acting strangely on a flight he made from Boston to Los Angeles a week before the hijackings, but when he reported his suspicions, they were not taken seriously: Woods mentioned what he had noticed to a flight attendant, "who shrugged it off"
I suppose the flight attendant is in on the conspiracy too.
Woods is pro Bush, so I suppose he's part of the conspiracy. He knew about it before anyone, but did nothing.
I bet there are people that are hoping for another huge terrorist attack while Bush is in office. These people will first blame Bush for the failure to prevent that act, then years later they will say it's part of the conspiracy.
I see government incompetence written all over it. What has the gov ever been any good at?
Look how the Bush admin is working now. Do you really think they could pull something like 9/11 off? Dozens of agencies and thousands of employees would have to go along with the plan and keep their mouths shut.
The anti-Bush media would have finished this off years ago.
Of all the "evidence" for a conspiracy, all anyone has to do is start a rumor.
Middle East terrorists have been at it for decades. Something much worse than 9/11 will happen eventually and it has to be dealt with realistically.
Look how the Bush admin is working now. Do you really think they could pull something like 9/11 off? Dozens of agencies and thousands of employees would have to go along with the plan and keep their mouths shut.
The anti-Bush media would have finished this off years ago.
Of all the "evidence" for a conspiracy, all anyone has to do is start a rumor.
Middle East terrorists have been at it for decades. Something much worse than 9/11 will happen eventually and it has to be dealt with realistically.
there's a difference between government incompetence and government involvement. ther's non need for thousands of people to be willingly involved, the top grass is more than enough and the rest will follow orders with no clue as what is really going on.
the truth will come out, many have begun speaking out and it's only a matter of time before some of the seniors will break the silence.
the truth will come out, many have begun speaking out and it's only a matter of time before some of the seniors will break the silence.
Quote from FightTheFuture:
I see government incompetence written all over it. What has the gov ever been any good at?
Look how the Bush admin is working now. Do you really think they could pull something like 9/11 off? Dozens of agencies and thousands of employees would have to go along with the plan and keep their mouths shut.
The anti-Bush media would have finished this off years ago.
Of all the "evidence" for a conspiracy, all anyone has to do is start a rumor.
Middle East terrorists have been at it for decades. Something much worse than 9/11 will happen eventually and it has to be dealt with realistically.
Quote from FightTheFuture:
I see government incompetence written all over it. What has the gov ever been any good at?
Look how the Bush admin is working now. Do you really think they could pull something like 9/11 off? Dozens of agencies and thousands of employees would have to go along with the plan and keep their mouths shut.
The anti-Bush media would have finished this off years ago.
Of all the "evidence" for a conspiracy, all anyone has to do is start a rumor.
Middle East terrorists have been at it for decades. Something much worse than 9/11 will happen eventually and it has to be dealt with realistically.
but some clown in a cave in Afghanistan can pull it off?? lol
please
So, for the last few decades, the imams, clerics, muftis, muslim college professors and organizations etc., in this country and dozens of other countries have been calling for jihad, the destruction of all things of Western civilization, the numerous other terrorist acts in dozens of countries is part of the conspiracy?
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth"
--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998
How do you think they will achieve dominance? By dividing us.
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth"
--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998
How do you think they will achieve dominance? By dividing us.
what dominance...that is a so far fetched idea.
u been listening too much to all the crap the gov is feeding u. state is determined to spread fear non-stop. war on terror, ror, what a whole lot of bs.
before 9/11 i bet none of u were racist, at least not to the extent u are now, that's exactly were u are wanted to be, so that any act of aggression towards muslim will be justfied.
u been listening too much to all the crap the gov is feeding u. state is determined to spread fear non-stop. war on terror, ror, what a whole lot of bs.
before 9/11 i bet none of u were racist, at least not to the extent u are now, that's exactly were u are wanted to be, so that any act of aggression towards muslim will be justfied.