What really happened ....11 september

Quote from bsmeter2:

........america is run by a satan worshipping cabal and their weaklings or power hungry ghouls they appoint into office. Your next president is Hillary Clinton. You can mark this post and look back at it in 2 years.....

you northerners are slowwwwwwwwwwwwwww.... i only beat you by 2 yrs on this call:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=624217&highlight=hillary#post624217

11-09-04 05:16 AM
Quote from ratboy88:

i need a cold shower now. god that is a sobering thought but probably true as hell. looks like they can alter the vote any way they want to now. hillary is a shoe in. YIKES !!!!! :eek:



http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=694871&highlight=hillary#post694871

02-27-05 08:39 AM
Quote from ratboy88:

KERRY !!!!!!!!! LOL LOL LOL.... you are a funny one. he should have never have ran this past year. i find it very hard to think that hillary and her cankles aren't going to be paraded starting about 2 yrs from now. hey, that gives me a great stock idea.... what company manufactures barf bags??? buy now because as soon as hillary and her cankles go on meet the press and tim russert ask that serious question, it will be too late. can you say "to the moon!!!"
 
this ones for you tradernicole.... i know she hates this, LOL LOL LOL:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=774514&highlight=hillary#post774514

06-22-05 02:50 PM
Quote from ratboy88:

it is all staged anyways...just like the WWF. trust me there will be a big swing in this country and hillary will be the beneficiary. hell, just look at that book out now...perfect timing. get it out of the way and in 2007 the press will call it old news while they trumpet in a new wave of democrats sweeping country. wake up people... this is getting really obvious. dems vs repubs = NO DIFFERENCE !!!
 
http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1040365&highlight=hillary#post1040365


04-15-06 07:51 PM
Quote from ratboy88:

they are paving the way for "Hillary's lovely Legs".... isnt it obvious??? they are gonna make georgie look worse and worse in the coming months/yrs... get another war out of him and then make a scapegoat out of him. then they bring in hillary and her lovely CANKLES to save the day....and boom... they boost the economy and help the middle class with all sorts of social programs. just watch oprah.... they are starting to show how bad things really are out there. these women eat this shit up like its rocky road. god i cant wait to hear how great hillary is...and how she has saved the day.... and how great women are and blah blah blah ad nauseam.... gonna be fun !!!!!!!!!!

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1047255&highlight=hillary#post1047255
Quote from ratboy88:

04-22-06 08:59 AM
welll it sure looks like they have already chosen hillary to be the next president.
 
Quote from man:

i ask that again: does anyone know a good documentary
countering the conspiracy claims? reason why i would
prefer a documentary is that when i see people ("experts")
being interviewed i have a better chance to decide for
myself whether i think they are lunatics or serious
people. what i learned from the various websites is that
experts are said to be quoted out of context. so if a site
says: expert Y said something, i can believe it or not
but when the same person says something within an
interview i at least know that he at least said exactly
that. i am not an engineer and have no idea about
thermite or controlled demolition. when someone says
"no steel framed building ever collapsed to fire" then
this sounds as long convincing until a demolition expert
qualifies that by say "there are no steel framed buildings
like that, which ever burned, so we don't know what
brings them down or not". if you see what i mean ...

i saw some documentary of a serious, a little older
man, who seemed to be convincing. then i learned
he was a theologist by profession, which reduced his
credibility when it came to engineering ...

though i love conspiracies i am currently thinking
that the psychologic drama of all this finds a route to
clearing via conspiracy theories. and i am truly an
anti-republican by heart ...

Now you're beginning to see why the CTers here are so scorned. You are thinking logically in your analysis of both sides' points.

This is something the Cters don't do. They begin from a position of BELIEF first, and then fit evidence - by misqouting, ignoring countering evidence, and just outright horrible science that could be challenged by high school physics.

Have you noticed that in some of those youtube videos, the speaker says - 'this is the only way this could happen'? But when I watch it, I can think of workable alternetives on the spot. Does this happen to you as well?

Sorry, I have no videos to watch, because to tell the truth, putting in that much effort to counter lunatics' claims seems like a waste of time....

At any rate, I've found it better to read and think it through, it gives you a chance review at a pace that allows you to ponder and sbsorb both sides' arguements, and not miss any points. As far as judging whether or not they're serious, do like you said about the theologist, discount his opinion. You'll find that most of the papers supporting the conventional explanation have been written by people with qualifications in the area that they're writing about - engineers writing about engineering, and demolition experts writing about demolition. I don't think that the same can be said of the CTers - they'll have physics professors writing about engineering, etc.

Perhaps that's the reason CTers use youtube and Google videos, it's a good way to overwhelm the logical, thinking part of the brain, and is a good way to evoke an emotional response from a group of people that are already primed to believe that Bush and the Zionist Bankers, etc, are pure evil....

Maybe you can find a link to a video, I have no idea. And remember, videos can be edited too....
 
here's your video, LOL LOL LOL:

<object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/5F1Y6cGRXEs"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/5F1Y6cGRXEs" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

oh wait.... that is a conspiracy. damn dan rather and US courts are conspiracy nuts. LOL LOL LOL
 
So what ever happened with this case?

Was it ever investigated thoroughly?

What changes were made in the FBI afterwards?

Or did Clinton and Gorelick respond by hamstringing the FBI by erecting barriers that prevented intelligence agents telling law enforcement agents that there were terrorists in the country.

Do you even know why that was done? Do you know the logic behind that.

Do you know what key player that had a hand in hamstringing the FBI was on the 9/11 commission?

Do you know whose national security advisor was caught smuggling Clinton era documents from the National Archive?

Do you even have a clue?????
 
Quote from Haroki:

So what ever happened with this case?

Was it ever investigated thoroughly?

What changes were made in the FBI afterwards?

Or did Clinton and Gorelick respond by hamstringing the FBI by erecting barriers that prevented intelligence agents telling law enforcement agents that there were terrorists in the country.

Do you even know why that was done? Do you know the logic behind that.

Do you know what key player that had a hand in hamstringing the FBI was on the 9/11 commission?

Do you know whose national security advisor was caught smuggling Clinton era documents from the National Archive?

Do you even have a clue?????

wow... hiroshi sounds like a conspiracy loon now. too funny !!!!!!:D

all these idiots on here that say crap like, "the govt would never do this or that.. blah blah blah".... hello.. wake up people !!! nothing has changed.... same M.O. this chit is formulaic.. human behavior doesn't change.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

wow... hiroshi sounds like a conspiracy loon now. too funny !!!!!!:D

all these idiots on here that say crap like, "the govt would never do this or that.. blah blah blah".... hello.. wake up people !!! nothing has changed.... same M.O. this chit is formulaic.. human behavior doesn't change.

It's as I suspected, you have nooooo clue......

What happened to the Able Danger report that identified Atta a full year before 9/11. Someone destroyed it....

Any guess whose administration was responsible???

Any guess as to what Hamilton of the 9/11 commission first had to say about the Able Danger findings? And how they changed their story a few days later?
 
listen to this guy, he's a veteran cia officer with tons of experience and co-founded the marine corps intel. he'll give u a picture of 9/11, cheney and the future of usa u neokons wont like and calling for an attack on iran by israel before xrsmas. listen to him, he thinks cheney is sooo evil he eventually will try to get rid of the president attacking him for alcohol abuse... well he already sorta did just that recently.

http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/051206steele.mp3
 
Quote from Haroki:

It's as I suspected, you have nooooo clue......

What happened to the Able Danger report that identified Atta a full year before 9/11. Someone destroyed it....

Any guess whose administration was responsible???

Any guess as to what Hamilton of the 9/11 commission first had to say about the Able Danger findings? And how they changed their story a few days later?

are you sniffing glue? while you are waddling through the mainstream mud i prefer to find out what is really happening. do you seriously think i am going to waste time analyzing the 9/11 commission as a legitimate effort at seeking the truth?

you are still stuck in the dem vs republican smokescreen.... who cares which admin was on deck... they are both shill parties. what about able danger? what about all the fbi whistleblowers? the whole cia not sharing info with the fbi is a wild goose chase. only an idiot would fall for.

atta, abramhoff, hopsicker, heroin, airports, gambling boats, false flags, weldon, melanie sloan, schumer, soros, fbi investigations, bob graham....... what do you want to know?

you bring up points that require much time to debate... try sticking to one or two questions per post.
 
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