What really happened ....11 september

Quote from CaptainObvious:
My link to alien involvement has amazing and shocking content as well. They have actual pictures of alien beings at the towers while they were falling.
http://www.gallerize.com/039 9-11... QUESTION.htm
Is this all it takes to provide credible evidence of someones whacked out theory? A link to a web site and that's it? I can find any, and I mean any CT you're looking for. So what!
That's not a very good example because in the case of aliens I might even believe they exist (somewhere) but I do not believe your evidence.
My feeling is that in the case of the 9/11 aftermath it is the other way around. People tend to dismiss the possibilities of foulplay and won't even look at the evidence and ridicule the messengers.

The russians eg. now believe that the ex-spy was poisoned to imply and damage Putin, while most in the west think the other way around.

I think it is important for all of us to use our brains. Separate you believes from your observations.
So again my question: make clear for yourself what it is you don't believe; the crime or the evidence?
If you don't believe Ratboy's documents are real, then say so. If you think they are falsified it is good of you to proof that to others.
If you think they're genuine, than will you accept the implications?

Ursa..
 
Quote from dddooo:

You are being too modest hiding behind the IP address of your "source", this once again is www.whatreallyhappened.com and there is a good reason you're trying to hide it - the site is known to specialize in baseless antisemitic and conspiracy garbage.

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hiding?? are you a conspiracy nut.. or loon? give me a break.. i googled operation northwoods.. and that was a top link so go blame google asshole. i put the hyperklink on the last two cause i had already posted many of the pages already.

it is amazing what we have become... the truth is demonized and nutjobs like doodoo kneejerk with his victim crap. haroki whines after being an ass for multiple months... too funny.. or too sad?
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

More crazy ass CT:

No planes anywhere on 9/11?
Due to the success of the "no plane at Pentagon" claim, several successor claims of "no planes" were floated, but none were as popular as the original. These efforts include the "webfairy" theory that there wasn't a plane at the World Trade Center north tower (even though the photos of the hole in the tower clearly show the impact of the wings), that the plane that hit the South Tower was some sort of military plane with "pods" that were firing missiles at the building (the only evidence for the "missile" claim is blurry low resolution video that could easily have been altered with software), and even a claim that there wasn't a plane crash in Pennsylvania.

The "no plane at the towers" campaign didn't fly, partially because the idea for the missile masked by a King Kong sized hologram of a plane at the North Tower is ridiculous. So the next version of "no plane" was a claim that the plane that hit the South Tower was swapped in mid-flight with military plane that crashed into the tower, carrying a "pod" under the plane that fired a missile at the building just before crashing into it. Variations on the "pod" is that it was a bomb or perhaps a remote controlled flight system. (Of course, none of the pod people can explain why the military conspirators wouldn't have merely placed these devices in the plane itself, or why the plane would be unable to penetrate the towers without first firing a missile. It is amazing how much time can be spent refuting this endless flood of nonsense, which is probabaly the purpose behind this propaganda.) The "pod" plane claims have not had substantial impact, since they are strange, based on fuzzy pictures and have been clearly refuted by the 9/11 truth movement - the pod is merely a carefully chosen photo of the normal "fairing" bulge between the wing and the fuselage.

Some more crap:
A couple minor variations on the pod hoax are that it was not firing missiles, but was really a bomb or perhaps a remote controlled flight system (if the planes were remote controlled, the altered navigational systems would have been made in or near the cockpit - this claim is a means to discredit the probable reality of remote control on 9/11). None of the pod people suggested why the military conspirators wouldn't have merely placed these devices in the plane itself, why no one noticed the pod and/or missile until they pointed it out, or why the plane would have been unable to penetrate the towers without first firing a missile.

It is amazing how much time can be spent refuting this endless flood of nonsense, which is probably the purpose for this propaganda.

Perhaps one day there will be "no building" theories offered as part of this information warfare attack.

Hey! Maybe that's it! There were no Twin Towers! It was all an illusion. A giant hologram put up since 1974. To what end will the evil Bush aliens go too?

no legit 9/11 truther buys into the pod crap or no planes fantasy. that is a set up and you fell for it... fool.
 
Quote from TorontoTrader2:

Not really. Both kennedys were taken out to suit political needs.
What part about organized crime controlling most of our society in every country don't you get?
Some hits are more high profile than others.

Watch the video he was clearly shot from the front.
And didn;t dozens of people who touched it afterwards, like guy who filmed autopsy etc., suddenly die in the years following it?
Mere conincidence I guess.

tradernicole loves fantasy hollywood spin. she is seriously one of the most gullible on elite.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

hiding?? are you a conspiracy nut.. or loon? give me a break.. i googled operation northwoods.. and that was a top link so go blame google asshole. i put the hyperklink on the last two cause i had already posted many of the pages already.

it is amazing what we have become... the truth is demonized and nutjobs like doodoo kneejerk with his victim crap. haroki whines after being an ass for multiple months... too funny.. or too sad?

See, this is what I was referring to when I said that if you conducted yourself with a little decorum, maybe someone would listen to you.

You obviously believe in this whole conspiracy thing... fine, that's your right. But your conduct makes you seem like a kook, and thus, no one will really listen or even really check your info with an open mind.

Or all this just a ploy so that you can sit with the cool crowd at the coffee shop? Probably so....
 
Quote from Haroki:

See, this is what I was referring to when I said that if you conducted yourself with a little decorum, maybe someone would listen to you.

You obviously believe in this whole conspiracy thing... fine, that's your right. But your conduct makes you seem like a kook, and thus, no one will really listen or even really check your info with an open mind.

Or all this just a ploy so that you can sit with the cool crowd at the coffee shop? Probably so....

yeah, i post documents that were released from the govt under the foia and i get railroaded. instead of discussing the content of these declassified doc's, i get attacked. big conspiracy... this shit is on the record and these people still call it conspiracy bs. so call me a kook but i would rather be right than follow anyone blindly. personally i think lil nicole knows i am right. doodoo is too stupid to have figured it out yet.
 
Quote from ratboy88:

yeah, i post documents that were released from the govt under the foia and i get railroaded. instead of discussing the content of these declassified doc's, i get attacked. big conspiracy... this shit is on the record and these people still call it conspiracy bs. so call me a kook but i would rather be right than follow anyone blindly. personally i think lil nicole knows i am right. doodoo is too stupid to have figured it out yet.

Hey, gettin' better....

Funny thing, I'd never heard of any CT junk until you guys brought it up here in this forum.

So anyways, yeah, your doc is real. But honestly, what does it prove? All it does is raise questions. And that's ok too, but you need to find your own answers that make sense, and then present them. And present them with a little respect, and people may listen to you. Not all, for sure, but a few will. And they'll tell a few more, and so on.

And when someone rebutts your evidence with something that makes sense and has some science behind it, a proper rebuttal to THAT rebuttal is most definitely not LOLOLOLOL. And a proper rebuttal takes into consideration the science or ideas that refuted yours, and uses NEW science or ideas, not relying on the first question or obfuscation.

That's how you win respect and get others to listen to you.....

Good luck..
 
Human nature never changes...

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