What really happened ....11 september

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i apologize for my language, it was in direct response to neophyte's chosen "curse word." but if it is offensive to you i will make an effort to avoid doing so in the future.
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No, it's not that I'm offended, not at all. I actually like a good tirade at times. It's more that I think you have some good points to make and imo they hit harder when brought in a calm and confident way. But no need to apologize at all.

honestly i dont think it has anything to do with fear on this board. anger may be a response to fear in a star wars movie according to yoda but wanting the truth to reach the people is an honorable pursuit. if i dont come across like Mr Rogers it is because the stakes are so high now. little babies have their limbs ripped off their bodies over in the middle east while pseudo liberals and neocons yuck it up at the local starbucks arguing about arcane issues regarding nothing that makes a *&^% bit of difference.
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I dunno, in my experience anger is always connected to fear somehow, just like old Yoda said. You know it is irrational to be angry because it won't help in reaching your goal. Find out why you are willing to take that risk.
Again, I don't mind, it's just that your arguments would be much more powerful, like a real Jedi :). Btw. I think the pursuit is very honorable indeed and the stakes are high. Let the blows not miss their target.

Ursa..
 
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Do you honestly think the country would have tolerated today's airport screenings and the Patriot Act pre-911? The fact is, unless we turn into a closed country, there is virtually no way to stop a similiar attack even today.
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If it was an inside job then all these measures will only make it easier to do a similar attack for those involved.

Ursa..
 
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and you know who the pilots were because the govt produced a pristine passport from one of the saudi hijackers although the blast was so intense it melted steel and vaporized the plane. just fking brilliant i tell you.
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Wait a minute, Batgirl... I have always wondered what the 'pristine passport' claim was all about. Are you now suggesting that the reason Atta is cited as one of the pilots is that they found the passport? It sure seems like it, judging by the above.

I do not believe I am about to do this, but...

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Batgirl, are you aware that we have security camera photographs of all the hijackers boarding the aircraft? Are you aware that the hijackers lived on US soil, posing as students, and that they used American flight training schools to help prepare them for the job? Are you aware that the instructors who trained them have come forward and identified them? Are you aware that normal American citizens who work at places like banks and convenience stores all confirm that these men were living on US soil, living quiet lives together in 'boarding house' type arrangements? Are you unaware that subsequent to 9/11, financial transactions between Atta and his AQ managers have been thoroughly detailed? Are you aware that the personal histories of the young men have been tracked and their descent into fundamentalism has been documented, and that their families have confirmed that they were the ones who did the job?

Is it your contention that the Islamic fundamentalists who boarded those planes that morning were NOT involved in the hijackings? Was it a coincidence that they happened to be on those planes??

These are rhetorical questions, Batgirl. Okay?

Good Lord...
 
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Wait a minute, Batgirl... I have always wondered what the 'pristine passport' claim was all about. Are you now suggesting that the reason Atta is cited as one of the pilots is that they found the passport? It sure seems like it, judging by the above.

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The CT'ers on this thread will only attack you instead of actually
reading what you wrote. Be prepared. They have no defense for
what you have written so they will take the offense with cuss
words, ect...

Even though it is quite ineffective to say the least.
 
u are a bloody liar, so far the only ones who have thrown insults left and right it's u and your pals. that's why am done with this thread and urge everyone that really cares about the truth to do the same and concentrate their efforts elsewhere, maybe making donations to the 911 volunteers who died and are dying of various terrible illnesses and make the public aware trough other means other than et and its pathetic neocons of what's going on and the staggering quantity and quality of evidence against the govt.
Quote from version77:

The CT'ers on this thread will only attack you instead of actually
reading what you wrote. Be prepared. They have no defense for
what you have written so they will take the offense with cuss
words, ect...

Even though it is quite ineffective to say the least.
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Quote from traderNik:

Wait a minute, Batgirl... I have always wondered what the 'pristine passport' claim was all about. Are you now suggesting that the reason Atta is cited as one of the pilots is that they found the passport? It sure seems like it, judging by the above.

I do not believe I am about to do this, but...
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please just tell me how the passport survived? it really is a miracle and we both know you are an atheist so that rules that out. did it ride the pancake wave? i wish it had grabbed the black boxes before its miracle journey.

how does plastic and paper survive what destroys black boxes that are designed to withstand such an event?
 
harasmki and tradernikki6, be honest... are you two stonecutters?

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Quote from bsmeter2:

One doesn't need to control everything. The person who hold the levers of power can easily separate the foot soldiers into "need to know" worker cells. You're told to go drill a few holes somewhere. next guy is told to go attach something to those drilled holes. Next guy is told to wire the "things", just be careful.
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Bwahahahahaha!!

The Person Who Holds the Levers of Power: "Hey, foot soldier 1, go drill some holes in the WTC."

Foot Soldier 1: "What for?"

The Person Who Holds the Levers of Power: "We need to test out some new drills."

Foot Soldier 1: "Okay."


The Person Who Holds the Levers of Power: "Hey, foot soldier 2, go attach these thingies here to drilled holes you'll find in the WTC."

Foot Soldier 2: "What are these? Explosives?"

The Person Who Holds the Levers of Power: "Of course not."

Foot Soldier 2: "Because that sure looks like nitroglycerin to me."

The Person Who Holds the Levers of Power: "Don't be ridiculous."

Foot Soldier 2: "Okay."


The Person Who Holds the Levers of Power: "Hey, foot soldier 3, go wire the thingies you'll find in some drilled holes in the WTC."

Foot Soldier 3: "Wire? Why? Planning to blow something up?"

The Person Who Holds the Levers of Power: "Don't be ridiculous. Of course not."

Foot Soldier 3: "Okay."

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ROFLMAO!!

At least the CT'ers are good for the occasional laugh! :)
 
Quote from ratboy88:

please just tell me how the passport survived? it really is a miracle and we both know you are an atheist so that rules that out. did it ride the pancake wave? i wish it had grabbed the black boxes before its miracle journey.

how does plastic and paper survive what destroys black boxes that are designed to withstand such an event?
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Yep, just what I figured. You totally ignored all the points in my posts.

Thank you for confirming that you have no response to any of them.

Facts are such a bitch, aren't they?

I kind of set you up because I knew you wouldn't respond to facts, and would instead just repeat shadowy allegations. That's why I said that they were rhetorical questions, right? But you didn't pick up on that, Batgirl.
 
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