What prevents liberals from seeing truth?

[wjk]

Simple. They believe in the social welfare system. They believe in helping the less fortunate. They believe in giving women and gays freedom. They believe in preserving the natural world around us and using science to help determine policy. They are less militaristic and aggressive. They believe capital punishment is immoral.

If you were to say that they were willing to do that at their own expense and not at the expense of others, I would agree. Perhaps you just defined the difference between liberals ad progressives.

For the record, I agree with everything you just said (with the exception of the welfare state. And believe it or not, I believe their should be a limited safety net of some sort) because you just described my policy of life. I prefer to live and let live, and help those truly in need, as I do through certain avenues of my choosing. That said, I don't consider myself a true liberal. Nor am I a pure conservative. I think you just described a libertarian view of sorts..

Damn FC, are you fucking with me? You may have just giving me a smidgeon of hope for the future of mankind.

 

[futurecurrents]

If you were to say that they were willing to do that at their own expense and not at the expense of others, I would agree. Perhaps you just defined the difference between liberals ad progressives.

For the record, I agree with everything you just said (with the exception of the welfare state. And believe it or not, I believe their should be a limited safety net of some sort) because you just described my policy of life. I prefer to live and let live, and help those truly in need, as I do through certain avenues of my choosing. That said, I don't consider myself a true liberal. Nor am I a pure conservative. I think you just described a libertarian view of sorts..

Damn FC, are you fucking with me? You may have just giving me a smidgeon of hope for the future of mankind.

No, it's really what I believe. The division may be about charity for the unfortunate. I believe in a centralized, country-wide system, where all citizens are commonly connected in a support system. It's the best way to insure all those in need are taken care of. And all citizens should be forced, as they are, to help out with this collective responsibility. If one can't agree to this very Christian ideal than they are free to move to Somalia. By helping the weakest, everyone gets stronger.

Part of this new "libertarian" ideal is really about the freedom to be greedy and selfish. It's a step backward in man's social evolution and no way for an ethical nation to operate.

 

[Humpy]

Whatever happened to the great moral revival in the 1970s ?????? but I am glad to see there are still some fun flower power people around. Not so many though.
That song Streets of San Francisco !!! made me think differently. Was it by Pete Seagar ?

 

[LEAPup]

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? One study after another shows that Conservatives give more to charity, Liberals just like to tell other people what they have to do with their money.


Biden gave average of $369 to charity a year


In 2004, before Mr. Obama entered the Senate, he and his wife gave $2,500 to charity, 1.2 percent of the taxable income. The next year, the donations jumped, to $77,315, or nearly 5 percent of the taxable income. “Their charitable giving only went up when it looked like he was campaigning for the presidential office


Romney and his wife, Ann, gave 29.4 percent of their income to charity, donating $4,020,772 out of the $13,696,951 they took in.

Joe Biden is a pos. And Romney also volunteers (off camera), weekly helping others in need. One example was a storm that hit San Diego before the 2012 race. A guy had a large tree down in his yard, and came out to find a some guys helping remove it. His neighbor whispered to him, "that's mitt Romney." Mitt and one of his sons were volunteering their time to help. Joe would have driven by in his limo, and said "that sucks."

 

[Scataphagos]

Joe Biden is a pos. And Romney also volunteers (off camera), weekly helping others in need. One example was a storm that hit San Diego before the 2012 race. A guy had a large tree down in his yard, and came out to find a some guys helping remove it. His neighbor whispered to him, "that's mitt Romney." Mitt and one of his sons were volunteering their time to help. Joe would have driven by in his limo, and said "that sucks."

Over the weekend, saw a tabloid headline... "Obama furious about Michelle's $150Mil spending".

Of course he was furious... that was HIS money. (Well, maybe it was. Didn't know he had that much already.) Doesn't mind a bit when it's taxpayer money.

 

[Lucrum]

Simple. They believe in the social welfare system. They believe in helping the less fortunate. They believe in giving women and gays freedom. They believe in preserving the natural world around us and using science to help determine policy. They are less militaristic and aggressive. They believe capital punishment is immoral.

Bat shit crazy and probably doing recreational drugs as well.

 

[Lucrum]

No, it's really what I believe. The division may be about charity for the unfortunate. I believe in a centralized, country-wide system, where all citizens are commonly connected in a support system. It's the best way to insure all those in need are taken care of. And all citizens should be forced, as they are, to help out with this collective responsibility. If one can't agree to this very Christian ideal than they are free to move to Somalia. By helping the weakest, everyone gets stronger.

Part of this new "libertarian" ideal is really about the freedom to be greedy and selfish. It's a step backward in man's social evolution and no way for an ethical nation to operate.

A Whole Lotta Democratic Corruption Going On

http://cnsnews.com/commentary/michelle-malkin/whole-lotta-democratic-corruption-going

 

[Humpy]

There really has to be a safety net imho.
Ever been short of food etc. ?
Not yet. Well it can happen to anyone and does to many.
Do the up and coming BRIC and MINT economies have social safety nets ? I doubt it. Probably the similar fat crooks living in luxury and the rest can stuff it.
Call them Union bosses, mafia bosses or business bosses but mostly all from the same mould.

No social conscience = a mean person.

 

[Lucrum]

There really has to be a safety net imho...

For the sake of discussion:
Why?
There is no "safety net" in nature I'm aware of. Why must we constantly fight what's natural?

 

[drownpruf]

For the sake of discussion:
Why?
There is no "safety net" in nature I'm aware of. Why must we constantly fight what's natural?

You should be thankful you've not been eaten by your kin. Federal laws apply in Appalachia, too. How many of your "family" are on the dole? Be honest for once.