What prevents liberals from seeing truth?

stu said:
Ignoring your usual disjointed rambling and more to the point, here's the pertinent quote.. "Jesus was a leftist".

Now I suggest you go read the quote from your bible that describes you to be a hypocrite.
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You have to be the most deluded, self-aggrandizing fool who has ever made a post. I do not write that lightly.

There is more historical fact about Jesus than there is about George Washington.

That you can't see how high and mighty you think of yourself is astounding. That you think you can use the Bible and the words of Jesus in some dumb-ass form of demagoguery is transpicuous.

Next time I post I think I will try to tell you that your lord and saviour Odumbo wants you to lick the underside of a hippopotamus's scrotum. That effort would be a better, more valid attempt to elicit compliance than your vain attempt to cajole/teach those of faith about Jesus.
 
stu said:
...Since when was there a law against or a problem with quoting from fictional characters? If you think it's not allowable to quote from someone who never existed, bewilder yourself further....
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I did not say there was a law against it. I did not say it's not allowed. I did imply it's stupid and hypocritical.

Say, while we're on the subject. You got any good tooth fairy quotes you want to share? I heard she is one clever bitch.
 
stu said:
Typical. When the religious don't like what Jesus says here, its what he says there that counts.
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Typical, when the rebellious don’t like what Jesus says in condemnation, they misquote, taking out of context snippets of the Bible to reinforce their self-worship in an effort to ignore Divine authority.

Stu, Jesus isn’t a leftist, He’s a Theocractist with Him as Ruler and everything that we have, belonging to God, we are only stewards of His provision.

There are no discrepancies in the Nature of God throughout the Bible, only the degree of revelation given to man, which we, in this age, are without excuse as we can look back on God’s plan of salvation and the Gift he has given in his Son Jesus Christ.

The Command to “Love one another” and the various sub-commands associated are subservient to the primary “Love the Lord your God”. All “LAW” was given to show man that he is incapable of living a righteous life and to guide man into an understanding of God’s nature. A Nature where sin in any form, in any degree, cannot be tolerated and will be judged condemned.

Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, murder, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21

Stu, we are all guilty of sin, You , Me and everyone on these boards. No one is capable of living “good enough” to make up for any sin in our lives when compared to the “absolute perfection “requirement of God…… the only way to reconcile the debt of sin, is through the substitutionary death and resurrection of the One you say doesn’t exist --- Jesus.

All of us --- Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

The only question, will we confess Him in love and submission or in everlasting judgment.

Choice is yours.
 
more nonsense from the atheists.

This is the parable of the talents. It
Wikipedia and others state a talent was perhaps 20 years wages.... Look at the lesson at the end. Its pretty much the opposite of Obamas wealth distribution.

Note... To each according to his ablities. The ones who produced got more capital. Being just has nothing to do with big govt socialism. In fact it is the opposite of big govt.

“For it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted to them his property. To one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. Then he went away. He who had received the five talents went at once and traded with them, and he made five talents more. So also he who had the two talents made two talents more. But he who had received the one talent went and dug in the ground and hid his master's money. Now after a long time the master of those servants came and settled accounts with them. And he who had received the five talents came forward, bringing five talents more, saying, ‘Master, you delivered to me five talents; here I have made five talents more.’ His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’ And he also who had the two talents came forward, saying, ‘Master, you delivered to me two talents; here I have made two talents more.’ His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.’ He also who had received the one talent came forward, saying, ‘Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you scattered no seed, so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours.’ But his master answered him, ‘You wicked and slothful servant! You knew that I reap where I have not sown and gather where I scattered no seed? Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming I should have received what was my own with interest. So take the talent from him and give it to him who has the ten talents. For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’


(Matthew 25:14-30, ESV)
 
No question. Jesus was a leftist.

He was a radical socialist that even contradicted his father. In those times being rich was a way to be close to God and won favor from him. Jesus dispelled that myth when he said a rich man can would have a harder time getting into the kingdom of God than a camel pass through the eye of a needle.

He probably picked up this idea from the Eastern religions of the time where this concept of the distraction of wealth was central. It was one of things he learned during his missing years, along with some magic tricks which really helped impress his followers.



Many year later the Beatles made the same trip. This is why John Lennon started looking so much like Jesus in his later years and why he was sacrificed.
 
The political model of the character Jesus as manifested in bible stories is quite clearly leftist, if not downright socialist.
It's the tale of a non-violent pacifistic, government acquiescent, wealth sharing middle eastern jew, who rebelled against the elite and disapproved of political conservatism in favor of the poor.
 
QUOTE by Wallet
"Typical, when the rebellious don't like what Jesus says in condemnation, they misquote, taking out of context snippets of the Bible to reinforce their self-worship in an effort to ignore Divine authority."


Now that's exactly what I mean.
Here you are putting up for glorification, the strong leftist character called Jesus whose economic model could hardly be more socialist, while all the time struggling to deny him so by constantly trying to re-interpret away his clear political leftist leanings, as they are declared in the bible.

Apart from using fiction as truth, relying on the Jesus image but refusing his socialism is nothing more than employing sheer bare-faced hypocrisy. It's a pure contradiction of the very thing you call Divine authority to justify your personal political preferences.

You really couldn't have better described what it generally entails to be a Christian, theist and especially a 'rightist' politician in this country.
 
futurecurrents said:
But stu, I'm pretty sure Jesus said....."Do unto others......and then split".
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The day you die, you'll be on your knees before The Lord. I'm quite sure you'll have a MUCH different attitude then, but it will long be too late. You'll spend eternity in Hell, and deservingly so.
 
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