What is your religion or lack therof?

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Did I say God was pissed off?

That is your belief system, not mine.

Can you actually do anything but make false statement attributing them to me?

are you saying he isn't?
 
zTroll:
>Fact it LongShot, you simply cannot fathom concepts
>beyond your limited mindset

Don't feel bad LS -- zTroll's limited mindset prevents him from fathoming the otherwise simple concept of his god + 1 = Gilbert. (Praise be)

JB
 
The concept of greatest, beyond which there is non greater is apparently more than your pea brain can handle.

If you take your shit from the bowl, and spread it all over your face, are you greater than you were before the shit smearing?

In your case, perhaps, but in the case of adding 1 to Gilbert, that 1 that is added comes from outside of Gilbert? Gilbert is not complete, such that something can be added to Gilbert?

Too ridiculous...

Nothing is outside of God, so if God adds 1 to Himself, he is no greater as he is simply adding to Himself what is already within Himself...rearranging numbers doesn't yield a greater sum.

Too stupid for words, this Gilbert + 1...

Quote from Turok:

zTroll:
>Fact it LongShot, you simply cannot fathom concepts
>beyond your limited mindset

Don't feel bad LS -- zTroll's limited mindset prevents him from fathoming the otherwise simple concept of his god + 1 = Gilbert. (Praise be)

JB
 
zTroll:
>Too stupid for words, this Gilbert + 1...

Hey now, don't start trying to add to Gilbert... There isn't a Gilbert + 1. There is only God + 1 and *that* is Gilbert.

Geeez -- It's really entertaining to watch someone with a limited mindset attempt to wrestle with concepts clearly beyond them.

To each his own... you are free to continue with your myopic view of what is possible.

Carry on.

JB
 
Where does this 1 that you add to Gilbert come from? Must be that Gilbert has something outside of Gilbert, and that makes Gilbert limited in nature.

The definition of God is that there is nothing outside of God, everything is within God...so where does this 1 come from? From within God, of course.

If the 1 comes from inside and/or within God, which it has to because by definition everything already resides within God, then it is not adding anything that isn't already there, it is a logical impossibility. More smearing of feces on their own faces by the atheists...not even on par with third grade sophistry.

Nothing but a ridiculous mental jerkoff from the atheists...

Additionally, the display of absurdity seen by the atheists, who continue to talk of God, something that they have no mental concept or, nor belief in...makes such mental gyrations even more ludicrous...

They add 1 to something they don't even know of and come to some conclusion of Gilbert?

If they are adding anything to God, then their concept of God is that God is something limited that can be added unto...and that is their own making, not the common and working understanding of God.

Heck, if their only tactic is to make up their own definitions of a limited God, to be able to add something to that God, then that is the pretty darn pathetic.

Too daffy for words, and amazing that the blind followers of atheism can't apply the simple logic they claim to be basing their belief system on, but rather employ arguments and embrace arguments fully devoid of the same logic they claim to embrace.

I am afraid that you have wet yourself publicly again...given you fallen for and repeated such tomfoolery...


Quote from Turok:

zTroll:
>Too stupid for words, this Gilbert + 1...

Hey now, don't start trying to add to Gilbert... There isn't a Gilbert + 1. There is only God + 1 and *that* is Gilbert.

Geeez -- It's really entertaining to watch someone with a limited mindset attempt to wrestle with concepts clearly beyond them.

To each his own... you are free to continue with your myopic view of what is possible.

Carry on.

JB
 
At the dire risk of you thinking I wish to engage in a conversation I will address some of your missive

Quote from I am...:

. . .
Can you see yourself within a body and know yourself as an idea? No.
Actually, yes I have & do make this distinction quite easily. Self as an intellectual/psychological construct - straight forwad - perception & language constitute reality - no mental gymnastics required here. 1st year philosophy.

Quote from I am...:

The body is a limit on love. . .

. . .Love's total lack of limit is it's meaning.

. . .There is one thing you have never done. You have not utterly forgotten the body.

The body has perhaps faded at time from your sight, but it has not yet completely disappeared.

You are not asked to let this happen for more than an instant.

Yet it is in this instant that the miracle of Atonement happens.

Afterwards, you will see the body again, but never quite the same.
Spoken as only A man would. Presumption borne of thinking only about your own possible range of experiences, ignorant (in true patriachal style) of those denied you based purely on a twist of DNA.

I have experienced the full transcendental power of nature, the collective conscious, the whole of which I am part, truly twice in my life, for more than an instant. 'I' have offered 'myself' up willingly & it is the most liberating, exhilarating 'experience'. Not at all like the mythology that has (accidentally?) arisen around it and which sees women sadly numbed with drugs and denied an absolute re-birth as one with nature & their babies.

I experience the limitless-ness of love having been it's absolute conduit, in a way that you as A man will never experience. Out of this experience there has been but one conclussion for me to draw, despite the conditioning boundaries set by fables writ large by men, I found no all-seeing 'entity' - Just that what is, is. There is everything & nothing & it doesn't mean anything.

My body will never be the same but I know love as assuredly as you are sitting at a keyboard proclaiming yourself to be the real version of the 'son of man'.


Quote from I am...:

. . . However, I am interested in saving you time.
Judging by the amount of time you spend on your keyboard every day waxing lyrical, saving time is certainly not part of your agenda!

One thing I am curious about though, how do you manage the keyboard typing all these messages, when, as you claim to have transcended the physical, you patently don't have fingers? Or is it just us taking the long way? :P

My final contribution in this 'no you prove it to me' tail chasing is this (not that it matters, but I like to play too!) - The only limited thinking I see being espoused here is the notion that all the wonders of which we are a part are bound by the actions/desires/intentions of a single entity/personality (not saying this is your claim 'I am' - you are clearly stranded on a completely different island).

I believe:

- we are part of something much more beautiful & unlimited than the mere fancies of a personal God (the necessary complexity of which will seem absurd compared to the simple perfect beauty yet to be revealed)

- whatever the truth is it is knowable & understandable & the work is being done toward this (perhaps in a minute fashion even here)

- that once unravelled the 'knowing' isn't going to change a single thing. It will all still be what it is - we'll just 'know' more about it.
 
Now, I've known that your limited mindset has difficulty with concepts beyond your simple god, but as it turns out you even have difficulty with simple math...

Last round:
Me:
>...zTroll's limited mindset prevents him from fathoming
>the otherwise simple concept of his god + 1 = Gilbert.

zTroll...
>Too stupid for words, this Gilbert + 1...

and my response:
>Hey now, don't start trying to add to Gilbert... There isn't
>a Gilbert + 1.
There is only God + 1 and *that* is Gilbert.

Now you ask...
>Where does this 1 that you add to Gilbert come from?

I'm not going to ask the obvious question..."are you really so stupid that you can't read a simple and consistent two part math statement?", because as this is the second time in a row you have mangled it (even after previous correction) the answer is just as obvious.

OK, how many times are you going to attempt to add 1 to Gilbert? Huh? How many times am I going to have to tell you that you can NEVER add ANYTHING to Gilbert. It's your overly (but understandably) simple concept of god we are adding to.

zTroll
>Must be that Gilbert has something outside of
>Gilbert, and that makes Gilbert limited in nature.

Uh...no -- check that statement again. It's *your god* that has "something outside", and *that* makes your god limited in nature. When that "something" is added to your god you have Gilbert (Praise be).

I know you believe that *your* god is not limited in nature...I get that -- I just hope you haven't closed yourself off to life changing evidence and opportunity.

Now, I'm not angry with you over this -- no more than a parent would be angry with a very young child who holds, through no fault of their own, that the parent is all powerful. In time, if you are truly open to seeing beyond your own limits you have a chance to grow and with this growth it will become clear.

>I am afraid that you have wet yourself publicly again.

Considering your repeated attempts to turn "god + 1" into "Gilbert + 1", that is a very amusing statement.

JB
 
Quote from Turok:

Now, I've known that your limited mindset has difficulty with concepts beyond your simple god, but as it turns out you even have difficulty with simple math...

Considering your repeated attempts to turn "god + 1" into "Gilbert + 1", that is a very amusing statement.

JB

JB, I love you!

Gilbert be with you!:D
 
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