What is your religion or lack therof?

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

" Since I never tried to be an atheist, nor practiced atheism, I am not a failed atheist... "
  • " You really can't speak about what you don't know. "
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

" At every stage of human development, a person can say based on their limited experience, limited understanding, limited intellect, and limited sensory input... "
  • " God is not found through intellectual analysis " .....
"The limited conclusions may be all that they know, but all that they know is not all that is knowable via human experience "
TrollZzz can self feed.
 
Quote from overtooled:

stu, it's like shooting fish in a barrel. you can't miss ROFL :p
True, but we need to remember something. One of the pitfalls of engaging an imbecile in debate or an exchange of any kind is that he doesn't even know when he has been eviscerated. Hence the expression, "He's too dumb to die."

Of course, I refer to no one in particular. I merely offer an observation in the abstract.
 
Quote from Thunderdog:

True, but we need to remember something. One of the pitfalls of engaging an imbecile in debate or an exchange of any kind is that he doesn't even know when he has been eviscerated. Hence the expression, "He's too dumb to die."

Of course, I refer to no one in particular. I merely offer an observation in the abstract.

no, we'll not name names, we just look his way and whistle :D
 
"According to our self-manufactured mythos, we revere Jesus and Mother Teresa and St. Francis of Assisi. But I think the truth is otherwise. When we feel collectively threatened, or when we are collectively injured, we want the Earp brothers and Doc Holliday on the job and we want the bad guys smoked, dried, fried and plowed under with bulldozers."

by Dave Robicheaux as written by JLBurke

Seneca

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
 
Quote from stu:

I suggest you have your teachers explain how a baseball bat proves otherwise.



If pain is real, there is no God.

If God is real, there is no pain.

Now, are you willing to be hit with a baseball bat to prove the first statement?

That is exactly what you are doing, if and when you are hit with a baseball bat...or with a high fast ball...or anything, any time, anywhere.

The world does not want to hear this because it is intent on crucifying God.

For pain proclaims God is cruel.

The fact is, you can only crucify yourself.

And it is your thoughts alone that cause you pain.

Are thoughts then dangerous? To a body, yes!

But a body is an illusion. And a bat is an illusion. And illusions can clash, producing another illusion: pain.

Illusions cannot clash with the truth. And if you know the truth, you do not feel pain.

The truth is that innocence is universal. And an innocent mind cannot suffer.

What makes this world seem real is the denial of the truth that lies beyond.

And while you deny innocence, images appear to come and punish you.

Yet these are all within a mind that is split, making the attacker seem to come from outside.

Believe it or not, while you fear God, you must cherish the illusion that an attacker can come from outside you. While you fear God, you fear the salvation of your mind.

While you cherish attack, this correlation will remain hidden in the dark.

But the instant you realize that the attacker is in your mind, the fear of God must go and salvation must come.

Until then, you fear salvation more than you fear an attacker with a baseball bat.

Salvation would reveal who you are, and how it is that you crucify yourself.

For only the Son of God has power to conjure up a world in which attack against himself seems possible.

And this can only seem to happen if he does not know himself...and that is a choice.

No one suffers pain except his choice elects this state for him. And no one dies without his own consent.

Nothing occurs but that it represents your wish, and nothing is omitted that you choose.

Here is your world, complete in all details. Here is its whole reality for you. And it is only here salvation is.

You may believe this position is extreme, and too inclusive to be true.

Yet can truth have exceptions? Truth must be all-inclusive if it is to be true at all.

Accept no opposites and no exceptions, for to do so is to contradict the truth entirely.


Jesus
 
Quote from overtooled:

Man has the UNLIMITED ability of abstract thought?? His thinking in the abstract is completely without limit? Hmmm.. interesting, Man's abstract thinking is on par with God. God's ability at abstract thinking is no greater than man's. :D God's got nothing on us here.. we are EQUAL. Each of us without limit to our abstract abilities. LOL

overfooled,

Man is a limit placed on Self.

Self is UNLIMITED and EQUAL to God in every way...thought, power, will, love, glory, holiness.

Man is opposite Self in every attribute.

He is a slave.

He has lost his powers, and ability to think.

He has but one power left: The power to choose.

He can choose to have his powers restored.

Man's will isn't much. But whatever it is, it is respected as equal with God because Self believes it to be so.

And whatever Self believes will never be destroyed.

This necessitates a choice.



Jesus
 
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

The self appointed triumvirate of LS, stupud, and TK9, bonding together the way ET cement heads generally do...

Perfect.
Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

...That you resort to the banal personal attacks, that is nothing new.
It doesn't get any better than this.
 
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