What is your Prediction for Trump?

You guys are worried about whether Trump can make it through 2020, you had better start worrying about this country.

The sugar is wearing off and the bills are coming due. All of this bullshit Republican tax cut, deregulation gimmicky nonsense is coming to its predictable endpoint and once again we will have suffered a loss of growth on top of the financial harm coming.

I will say this, I ain’t counting out Trump, at all. In times of crisis people gravitate to those who lay the blame on others and make wild promises. And even if Trump does lose in 2020 this country is still infected with a strain of anti minority and anti immigrant disease that he grew to levels that must be reckoned with for a long time to come.
 
Poignant and sad words from Charles Pierce in Esquire:
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"In my life, I have watched John Kennedy talk on television about missiles in Cuba. I saw Lyndon Johnson look Richard Russell squarely in the eye and say, "And we shall overcome."
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I saw Richard Nixon resign and Gerald Ford tell the Congress that our long national nightmare was over. I saw Jimmy Carter talk about malaise and Ronald Reagan talk about a shining city on a hill. I saw George H.W. Bush deliver the eulogy for the Soviet bloc, and Bill Clinton comfort the survivors of Timothy McVeigh's madness in Oklahoma City.
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I saw George W. Bush struggle to make sense of it all on September 11, 2001, and I saw Barack Obama sing "Amazing Grace" in the wounded sanctuary of Mother Emanuel Church in Charleston, South Carolina.
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These were the presidents of my lifetime. These were not perfect men. They were not perfect presidents, God knows. Not one of them was that. But they approached the job, and they took to the podium, with all the gravitas they could muster as appropriate to the job.
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They tried, at least, to reach for something in the presidency that was beyond their grasp as ordinary human beings. They were not all ennobled by the attempt, but they tried nonetheless.
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And comes now this hopeless, vicious buffoon, and the audience of equally hopeless and vicious buffoons who laughed and cheered when he made sport of a woman whose lasting memory of the trauma she suffered is the laughter of the perpetrators.
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Now he comes, a man swathed in scandal, with no interest beyond what he can put in his pocket and what he can put over on a universe of suckers, and he does something like this while occupying an office that we gave him, and while endowed with a public trust that he dishonors every day he wakes up in the White House.
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He is the scion of a multigenerational criminal enterprise, the parameters of which we are only now beginning to comprehend, a vessel for all the worst elements of the American condition and a cheap, soulless bully besides.
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Watch him make fun of the woman again. Watch how a republic dies in the empty eyes of an empty man who feels nothing but his own imaginary greatness, and who cannot find in himself the decency simply to shut the %$^& up even when it is in his best interest to do so.
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Presidents don't have to be heroes to be good presidents. They just have to realize that their humanity is our common humanity, and that their political commonwealth is our political commonwealth, too.
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Watch him again, behind the seal of the President of the United States. Isn't he a funny man? Isn't what happened to that lady hilarious? Watch the assembled morons cheer. This is the only story now."
 
BonScott said:
My prediction for Trump is a limited nuclear war, or other major incident, followed by martial law and no elections
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Quite unlikely now, I would hope. When a President, or any leader, loses the confidence of those around them, their subordinates lose their fear of speaking up. This goes to our most basic instincts. We recognize weakness in our own species and go for the kill. Because it is instinctual, it is hard to master control over this urge. Trump is the wounded animal. His snarls are ineffectual. Those many he has insulted and belittled, and those whose lives he wrecked when they mistakenly threw in with him, will be emboldened by his weakness.

His out of control narcissism, which inextricably thrust his life of misdeeds front and center onto the American political stage, will ironically cause him to double down, making his plight worse still. The most gullible among his supporters will be the first to desert. Watch for this among the laid off GM factory workers. On every Morton Box of salt there is depicted a girl under an umbrella with the slogan "When it rains, it pours." This will be the tune to which Trump's ill fated Presidency exits.

Frankly it is getting hard for those of more tender sensibilities, such as myself, to watch; like watching a bull whose fate is to die at the thrust of a rapier be gored and goaded by a pack of picadores.
 
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piezoe said:
Quite unlikely now, I would hope. When a President, or any leader, loses the confidence of those around them, their subordinates lose their fear of speaking up. This goes to our most basic instincts. We recognize weakness in our own species and go for the kill. Because it is instinctual, it is hard to master control over this urge. Trump is the wounded animal. His snarls are ineffectual. Those many he has insulted and belittled, and those whose lives he wrecked when they mistakenly threw in with him, will be emboldened by his weakness.

His out of control narcissism, which inextricably thrust his life of misdeeds front and center onto the American political stage, will ironically cause him to double down, making his plight worse still. The most gullible among his supporters will be the first to desert. Watch for this among the laid off GM factory workers. On every Morton Box of salt there is depicted a girl under an umbrella with the slogan "When it rains, it pours." This will be the tune to which Trump's ill fated Presidency exits.

Frankly it is getting hard for those of more tender sensibilities, such as myself, to watch; like watching a bull whose fate is to die at the thrust of a rapier be gored and goaded by a pack of picadores.
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in order to be a narcissist, one must not be able to care about others and Trump clearly does.---The narcissist is Obama. He continues to show this publicly to this day,
 
1. Trump tried to keep more DACA people than the Democrats were requesting. That is what he proposed.

The Democrat leadership preferred to screw over the DACA kids than let Trump show he is not the hater you all wish him to be. (by the way i don't enjoy defending Trump, I just have to set the record straight.)

Your whole Trump and DACA argument should be directed toward Schummer and the Democrat leadership.

How can you be so duplicitous on that?
Bannon is another story. I am sure he would have preferred to make DACA the wall and an intelligent immigration policy as all part of one global negotiation.

His base is more intelligent than the Democrat base.
Democrats dominate the low IQ end of the spectrum.
Do I need to bring up that study again on this thread?
Its fricken ridiculous of democrats to claim their base is smarter.






piezoe said:
Doesn't say much for his base. I don't blame his base. That would be like blaming a retarded person for a bad decision.
Bannon wants to kick out young, productive, educated adults who have never known any other country but the U.S. He, like trump, is a horrible person. Yes, the human race is flawed, and Trump and Bannon are sad examples of the worst flaws.

These DACA folks are here because American Corporate and Business interests did not want tight enforcement of immigration law. Employers did not alert immigration authorities when they could hire surprisingly hard working illegal immigrants and not get caught, or at worst pay in consequential fines that amounted to a slap on the wrist. American employers benefited from low wages and lack of the illegals' standing in U.S. Courts. The illegals found work in chicken processing plants, on farms, and on assembly lines. They would not be turned in by their employers, and in turn they would not complain to authorities about working conditions. Corporate America and small businesses were happy to pay illegal workers less than they would have otherwise had to pay citizen workers to do the same jobs; jobs citizens either did not want, or that could become the basis of legal action because of inhuman working conditions.

So what now? It is heartless and illogical to punish DACA Americans because their parents were desperate for asylum and were willing to accept what was offered by greedy employers . A parallel would be executing those who killed Khashoggi while letting the monster that ordered the killing go free with a wink -- an outcome perfectly satisfactory to a miscreant like Trump. If we are going to kick out the DACA young adults, then we must also kick out the principles of the businesses and corporations who telegraphed a subtle message to their Congressmen and Senators; getting tough on immigrants would take a bite from their profits. As Abba Eban said, "Clocks only move one direction." We can't undo what is done, we can only avoid repeating the same crime going forward. What we are in danger of doing, and Mr. Trump and Mr. Bannon would have us do it, is to compound a crime by adding an injustice on top of it.
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Top left column on Drudge...

https://spectator.us/roger-stone-innocent/

Stone thinks the President is not going to run for re-election. He believes that Trump likes ‘the adulation part’ of being President but not the actual governing. And: ‘He doesn’t like the fact that half the people in the country hate his guts. He’s hypersensitive to criticism. I could easily see him saying, “Well, I made America great, I’m heading to the golf course. Mike, good luck.” ’ Again, Stone says his opinion does not come from being in possession of inside information. In this case, it’s a judgement he says comes from knowing Trump for some 40 years.
 
TJustice said:
Its fricken ridiculous of democrats to claim their base is smarter.
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Did you mean, "It would be fricken ridiculous..." No unbiased observer would conclude those who support Trump have a lock on stupidity... I do see now, however, particularly after Buy1Sell2's post above, why it would be tempting to draw that conclusion
 
"Would be" addresses a future possibility"

Dems attempt to make themselves smarter and put down groups of Republicans intelligence almost every day. Many Dems seem to have a massive inferiority complex. Michelle Obama was pulling a variation on this theme just last week claiming some people did not even know black women looked like.


To me its similar to about a decade ago when some blondes use to insist they were smart... all the time.

Eventually the ones who were defensive (probably duly so) changed their hair color back to their more natural color and left the more confident and or smarter ones to remain blonde.

piezoe said:
Did you mean, "It would be fricken ridiculous..." No unbiased observer would conclude those who support Trump have a lock on stupidity... I do see now, however, particularly after Buy1Sell2's post above, why it would be tempting to draw that conclusion
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Buy1Sell2 said:
in order to be a narcissist, one must not be able to care about others and Trump clearly does.---The narcissist is Obama. He continues to show this publicly to this day,
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You are a fucking idiot.
  1. "To be a narcissist", using "in order to" is meaningless and redundant.
  2. The fact that you believe Trump cares for others.
  3. Adding "Obama" to every argument.
 
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