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what is wrong with my system?
- Thread starter drcha
- Start date
Quote from OddTrader:
Do you know why (based on what criteria) your system is displayed on the front page of c2 hot systems (trading stocks)?
Max DD < 50%
Sharpe > 0.30
Realism > 0.25
Avg. adverse trade DD < 15% of equity
Return over last 30 days > 0.8%
More than 8 trades made
System age 3 wks or older
Risk of 20% acct loss < 20%
Keep after slippage > 50%
Quote from Now is Now:
Please forget C2...a complete waste of money....there will NEVER be any information provided related to subscribers.Should you obtain subscibers C2 takes 30% of the monthly fee up front....holds your net for 60 days plus...any subscriber can pull out and demand a refund , and get refunded ,within 30 days...no questions asked regardless how good your 'signals' were.
The site is set up solely for the benefit of the owner...trust me.
If you have been trading the system for a few years keep doing it for your benefit. If the results are consistently good opportunities will come your way in time.
Good luck...
Thanks for your thoughts. I know the rules, yes. It requires only one subscriber to cover my costs. I really don't know how to get 'opportunities' to come my way. I am just some schmo trading at home, far from New York or Chicago, and I don't know anyone in the industry or have any financial education or credentials.
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Quote from NetTecture:
I dont like the selection. Stocks, bonds, etf, future - many people dont like one system trading it all because they need separate accounts etc. Also, they may look for specialized systems.
For example I trade Futures. I will add SSF soon. ETF WILL be added, too, but not for trading, rather long term buy and hold until I think i want to be cash style of investing. My inteerst in a system that requires me to also deal with bonds is a lot lower than one that is futures only.
Just my 2 cents.
NetTecture,
they are just etfs--the system is for someone who has 60 seconds each day to trade--they are position trades with an average holding period of about 90 days
My "Trend Trading" system is five months old and is the fourth most popular long term stock trading system. I have subscribers and my experience with C2 has been positive.
I suspect the biggest obstacle you currently face is the short period of time your system has been on C2. I know of a number of investors on the site who prefer to consider only trading systems that have been around for at least two years. If you focus on getting subscribers then your effort is misplaced in my opinion. Design and execute a winning trading system and the subscribers will follow.
I suspect the biggest obstacle you currently face is the short period of time your system has been on C2. I know of a number of investors on the site who prefer to consider only trading systems that have been around for at least two years. If you focus on getting subscribers then your effort is misplaced in my opinion. Design and execute a winning trading system and the subscribers will follow.
Quote from drcha:
I posted a system on collective2.com. I'm having trouble getting subscribers. I am wondering why--Matthew over there is not too interested in helping me figure it out. I would appreciate anyone who has experience with these types of sites helping me think about it. Here are some possible reasons:
1) the system is only 5 months old (time will heal this)
2) the starting equity of $200,000 is too high (I can fix this, but I have to close all the trades first, which is a hassle, but I'll do it if I need to)
3) it is not profitable enough, since its annualized return to date is 34% (I don't expect it to return even this much over the long haul; it's a pretty conservative system, so I don't intend to aim for anything higher. If this is the problem, I cannot fix it.)
4) the per month charge of $50 is too high (it is about average for the site)
5) I have not advertised the system anywhere nor taken advantage of any of the additional ways to dramatize the system on collective2 (I might do this if Matthew could give me some inkling of which, if any of them, is likely to work.)
The system is called Long-Short ETFs/ETNs.
thanks in advance for your thoughts
The starting equity in your system is a big problem too. Alot of potential subscribers with smaller amts of money are probably getting the wrong idea bcuz of it. You really don't need to change the trades, Just post a notice saying that lower starting equities (min $5000.00) for example will work too as long as they use the correct risk/reward parameters.
** Possible added incentive to subscribers: make a promise not charge them the monthly fee if the system doesnt produce a pos return on any month. Just an idea..
Quote from fjpenney:
My "Trend Trading" system is five months old and is the fourth most popular long term stock trading system. I have subscribers and my experience with C2 has been positive.
I suspect the biggest obstacle you currently face is the short period of time your system has been on C2. I know of a number of investors on the site who prefer to consider only trading systems that have been around for at least two years. If you focus on getting subscribers then your effort is misplaced in my opinion. Design and execute a winning trading system and the subscribers will follow.
Thank you. I don't really understand. The system is also five months old, and it is doing well.
Quote from southbeach4me:
The starting equity in your system is a big problem too. Alot of potential subscribers with smaller amts of money are probably getting the wrong idea bcuz of it. You really don't need to change the trades, Just post a notice saying that lower starting equities (min $5000.00) for example will work too as long as they use the correct risk/reward parameters.
** Possible added incentive to subscribers: make a promise not charge them the monthly fee if the system doesnt produce a pos return on any month. Just an idea..
thank you