What is the psychology of "selling at the bottom" for a loss

Im trying to understand the mechanics or psychology or motivation behind this giving up and selling right before trend reversal.
I see it described in books and i am guilty of that myself.
And always seem to "give up" hours sometimes even minutes before a reversal and an uptrend

For example today avct
I made a stupid mistake of riding it through RS
And for absolutely no logical reason held it through the slow downtrend after RS
And after watching it slowly go down more every day i said thats enough for me its not moving up or down so im out and literally minutes after i sold it it spiked

This happened to men many times and i still cant figure out how i managed to sell right at the fn bottom before trend reversed

I mean i never see it when im not holding a losing position and if i decide to hold it just keeps going more down
I need help to figure this out

Obviously the right move was to "put the stahp loss bro" so i dont need a repeat of literally every youtube guru "the stahp lass bro"

Just need to figure out why and how i manage to consistently find the bottom of the trend but its never in my favor


What states did you experience before, during and after the trade?

Where did you enter and exit?


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You are conditioned to be exit liquidity.
 
Im trying to understand the mechanics or psychology or motivation behind this giving up and selling right before trend reversal.
I see it described in books and i am guilty of that myself.
And always seem to "give up" hours sometimes even minutes before a reversal and an uptrend

For example today avct
I made a stupid mistake of riding it through RS
And for absolutely no logical reason held it through the slow downtrend after RS
And after watching it slowly go down more every day i said thats enough for me its not moving up or down so im out and literally minutes after i sold it it spiked

This happened to men many times and i still cant figure out how i managed to sell right at the fn bottom before trend reversed

I mean i never see it when im not holding a losing position and if i decide to hold it just keeps going more down
I need help to figure this out

Obviously the right move was to "put the stahp loss bro" so i dont need a repeat of literally every youtube guru "the stahp lass bro"

Just need to figure out why and how i manage to consistently find the bottom of the trend but its never in my favor

Lack of knowledge and that is why those who have spent lifetime playing the game do well and other 98% dream.
 
What states did you experience before, during and after the trade?

Where did you enter and exit?


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You are conditioned to be exit liquidity.
This cycle chart is kind of BS. Since low and high are relative and not absolute (except for zero), and the fact that price structure is fractal to some degree, these cycles could apply at any time scale.

Maximum opportunity could exist at any price depending on what happens in the future, which nobody knows unless you are perhaps in the latency arbitrage business. Is a pullback a pullback or a trend reversal? An eternal question.
 
This cycle chart is kind of BS. Since low and high are relative and not absolute (except for zero), and the fact that price structure is fractal to some degree, these cycles could apply at any time scale.
Not only that, but how many people will sit out the entire cycle? Only Warren Buffet and his acolytes would do that, and they won't give a shit about all these psychobabble anyway.
 
and the fact that price structure is fractal to some degree, these cycles could apply at any time scale.

Yes, those chart emotions also play out on the intra day time scale as well, especially when a day trader is very emotional. I mean during a losing streak.

If a losing day trader happens to catch a fast trend early in the day only to see it reverse mid day, most of those emotions could be felt.
 
Im trying to understand the mechanics or psychology or motivation behind this giving up and selling right before trend reversal.
I see it described in books and i am guilty of that myself.
And always seem to "give up" hours sometimes even minutes before a reversal and an uptrend
I didn’t read the whole thread, just a couple of pages, so maybe this has already been said. You need to have an exit plan at the moment of entry. When you sell shouldn’t be discretionary, especially based on what you say is happening.. ask yourself….

how much of my capital am I willing to lose, max, on any one position.
Then, to what price does this position need to drop, for me to be at my max loss
Then, put in a stop at that point. Period. Full stop. End of story. Sometimes you will find you sold just before the reversal. But more often, being stopped out will save you from yourself.
 
Im trying to understand the mechanics or psychology or motivation behind this giving up and selling right before trend reversal.
I see it described in books and i am guilty of that myself

Just need to figure out why and how i manage to consistently find the bottom of the trend but its never in my favor
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WELL the good thing about your consistent losses\ you also\ are proving the market is not \ no way random. Believe it or not i did that some what first 52 weeks =amazing\LOL:D:D
[200# ]OCT may not be the best time to mention it; did you ever notice a downtrending 200 day moving average like SPY benchmark\ makes new bottoms all the time??
And a related pattern, no psycho- babbel in it, follows.
FOR a moving target victory, common sense people + pros use like #9 shot, in a 12 gauge; average pellet count 585 pellets for 1 oz lead. NO one uses a single shot rifle or any rifle for migratory birds\ moving birds.
Sounds like you need to study a bear market\ most make money with SH stuff, /inverse SPY.
[DIA does ok with 30 single stocks; DOG profits in a bear trend] Not a stock tip or psycho-babbel.
 
This cycle chart is kind of BS. Since low and high are relative and not absolute (except for zero), and the fact that price structure is fractal to some degree, these cycles could apply at any time scale.

Maximum opportunity could exist at any price depending on what happens in the future, which nobody knows unless you are perhaps in the latency arbitrage business. Is a pullback a pullback or a trend reversal? An eternal question.

With it's faults, many discount it's simplistic accuracy.
 
I'm no Guru but don't we seem due for a messy "fake" recovery period after the first leg down? I've seen this on a lot of old charts of busted parabolas, bear markets and penny stocks when they run out of fuel:
 

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