What is the optimum tax rate on the wealthy?

Tax rate on the wealthy (say earners of > 1M a year)

  • 0 - 10%

    Votes: 28 22.4%
  • 11% - 20%

    Votes: 16 12.8%
  • 21% - 30%

    Votes: 26 20.8%
  • 31% - 40%

    Votes: 12 9.6%
  • 41% - 50%

    Votes: 13 10.4%
  • 51% - 60%

    Votes: 4 3.2%
  • 61% - 70%

    Votes: 18 14.4%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 3 2.4%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 5 4.0%

  • Total voters
    125
Quote from trading spaces:

You can downsize, letting younger people with children live in the big houses instead of having a widow rattling round in a family home.
all taxes on property set up senarios where the government can confiscate your property. it is immoral.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

the fairest and most moral tax is an income tax. nobody has to pay unless and until they generate excess income.

Why is it "moral" to impose taxes only on "excess" income? I love how people say they don't want to "legislate morality" until it comes to their pet issues and preferences!
 
Quote from MKTrader:

Why is it "moral" to impose taxes only on "excess" income? I love how people say they don't want to "legislate morality" until it comes to their pet issues and preferences!

Great idea. Lets tax excess weight, excess stupidity, excess height, excess "you know" length etc. Let's all be completely equal - the socialism dream.
 
Quote from StarDust9182:

Great idea. Lets tax excess weight, excess stupidity, excess height, excess "you know" length etc. Let's all be completely equal - the socialism dream.

Quote from MKTrader:

Why is it "moral" to impose taxes only on "excess" income? I love how people say they don't want to "legislate morality" until it comes to their pet issues and preferences!
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i have that guy on ignore but since you quoted him i will answer the question.


everyone should be allowed a certain level of subsistance income before the government takes any away. it is immoral to take from people who cant feed their family.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:


i have that guy on ignore but since you quoted him i will answer the question.


everyone should be allowed a certain level of subsistance income before the government takes any away. it is immoral to take from people who cant feed their family. [/B]

Ah, ignore those who expose your ignorance. What a concept!

So, the question again -- what morality are you basing this on? And how do you determine "excess"? You've attempted to turn this into a philosophical/ethical discussion. The burden of proof is on you to describe and defend your system of ethics.

Don't worry, I'm not expecting Immanuel Kant-like response. I'm not even expecting an Emmanuel Lewis-like response!
 
don't really like being too pedantic on them things but I think maybe the use of "moral" "ammoral" "Immoral" kinda convolutes the issue.
I'm not sure I can say is it more moral to have butt secs or more moral to have a blow jobs if i believe premarital sex is wrong. Kinda weird.

They seem to be two different questions being asked. Headache.

Interesting thread
 
Quote from lighnintrade:

Nice thread 20% or less and a return to feudalism sounds pretty good to most posters.

No, the scary thing is the number of non-thinkers who confuse "feudalism" with the pre-income tax, pre-Fed U.S.

Oh, and those who think we can impose 70% tax on the "wealthy" under today's tax system without disastrous consequences.
 
Quote from MKTrader:

No, the scary thing is the number of non-thinkers who confuse "feudalism" with the pre-income tax, pre-Fed U.S.

Oh, and those who think we can impose 70% tax on the "wealthy" under today's tax system without disastrous consequences.

An ape would have enough deduction skills to see what the system you suggest would lead to, but apparently you do not. You confuse "non-thinking" with not brainwashed into believing propaganda. Simple minded people can be lead to believe whatever the wealthy suggest. These people are failures.
 
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