What is the Best Way to Lose 20 pounds and keep it off...

[Pekelo]

I am watching Adam Ruins Everything, the episode on fat/sugar/weight loss.

Fun facts:

1. The FDA allows food companies to be off on the label's calories count by 20%! I mean what is 20% difference between friends anyway?

2. Calorie burn counters over estimate burn rate by as much as 40%. They like to flatter you.

So when the muffin you just ate showing 200 kcal is actually 240 and your jog burnt only 160 when it is showing 200, then you just gained 80 kcalories. Congrats!!!

 

[Pekelo]

But keeping your "eating window" limited to about 6~8 hours per day is a good rule of thumb.

I never heard of this and honestly, sounds dumb too. Any scientific backing this up?

When I meet a new "fact" like this, I always go back in history. Did a peasant 200 years ago ate only in an 8 hours window? Hell fuck no, because he was working on the field all day and he needed ENERGY. And he wasn't fat either. I don't really know their eating window, but the fact that he wasn't fat probably had to do with working more and eating less.

I mean seriously, if you eat 500 calories more than you burn per day in a 4 hours eating window, you still get fat, no way around it.

 

[HobbyTrading]

I never heard of this and honestly, sounds dumb too. Any scientific backing this up?

It is the basis of intermittent fasting. A brief overview of benefits of intermittent fasting is given in this short Youtube video:

 

[Pekelo]

#2 point in the video: as a result, you eat less calories. So you aren't losing weight because intermittent fasting does miracles to your body, or stops you absorbing fat or whatever, but it might help you eat less.

What I have been saying all along, eat less. Eating less calories is the key, how you achieve it is your problem. But you don't have to limit your eating window if you can eat less in any other way.

To make fun of it: If I limit your eating window to 5 minutes a day, really, just how much calories can you swallow in 5 minutes? (and if you can a lot, I will limit you to 40 seconds) I think you get the point.

 

[vanzandt]

I've always wondered about this...

Say you walk 2 miles on a 70 degree day. You burn a few calories right.

Now say you walk the same 2 miles when its 20 degrees out and you wear just enough clothes to not freeze to death but you are thoroughly chilled for the entire walk. Will you burn more calories since your body has to work harder to maintain body temperature?
Seems like it would.

 

[CaptainObvious]

I've always wondered about this...

Say you walk 2 miles on a 70 degree day. You burn a few calories right.

Now say you walk the same 2 miles when its 20 degrees out and you wear just enough clothes to not freeze to death but you are thoroughly chilled for the entire walk. Will you burn more calories since your body has to work harder to maintain body temperature?
Seems like it would.

You will burn more calories in the heat. The body works harder trying to cool off rather than heat up. However, if you were do begin to suffer hypothermia you would then start burning more calories as your entire system would be taxed to the max trying to recover. You are always better off dressing warmly if exercising in cold conditions.

 

[Zodiac4u]

I recently quit drinking cokes and switched to diet coke.
I gained 4 pounds.
I switched back to regular cokes and lost the 4 pounds.
So I know I need to quit the cokes... but I am not sure that alone will do the trick.

I know I need to lose 20 more pounds.
The problem is I already exercise almost every day. I go to the gym or I run or I do and hourly long hike at a high cadence that is has some very good hills. I sort of feel my body is too use to my exercise routine.

Should I try fasting?
A juice fast?
Ten years ago or whenever had the thread here I had success with atkins. Should I do that again.

In short what is the best way to lost 20 pounds and keep it off.
if you feel like answering... thanks in advance.

Diet coke? sweeteners have been shown to mess with the way you absorb sugars and therefor actually help you gain weight and not lose.

The following I posted on an earlier discussion i hope it helps you.

For me i went down to 1400 calories per day and this did have its share of side affects so i had to adjust my intake to closer to 1800/2000. When your a grownup and your used to 3000+ calories, dropping down to under 2000 is a big jump. You may experience some dizziness after one or two weeks, i know i did and i had to increase my intake of protein. But when i first approached the diet, I used some logic or at least it worked for me. The body doesn't know how to tell us what to eat, we just get hunger pains or we have the empty feeling. But hunger is associated with lacking nutrients, hence the feeling of hunger.
My diet consisted with nutrient rich foods with healthy fats, avocado's, certain nuts and certain types of fish, also eating nutrient rich greens with meat forces you to eat slower, hence being fuller faster. I also found that eating highly spiced (not Hot) foods curbed my appetite quicker and kept me fuller longer. If i chose wraps i used lettuce, cabbage or any other large leafy green that does or doesn't need pre-steaming. when i ate snacks i ate combination vegetables like sugar snap peas and carrots, this curbed my appetite verses just carrots. There is also much research on foods with a lot of spicy(heat) benefiting ones diet, by way of suppressing hunger longer. Get an eye dropper and Try two drops of ghost pepper sauce in your mouth and you wont be eating for at leased 4 hours even when your hungry.

Good luck.

 

[vanzandt]

Get an eye dropper and Try two drops of ghost pepper sauce in your mouth and you wont be eating for at leased 4 hours even when your hungry.
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Hmph. Interesting.
And what you said about Diet Coke.... I know a guy thats a fanatic about staying ripped... and he swears up and down Diet Coke makes you gain weight.

 

[Zodiac4u]

Hmph. Interesting.
And what you said about Diet Coke.... I know a guy thats a fanatic about staying ripped... and he swears up and down Diet Coke makes you gain weight.

ya my kid drinks it all the time also, but he's young, hence the young metabolism. i think its when you get older that the sugars are a concern. But there's science behind that research done with rats. i think it goes like this, when they administered the sweeteners to the rats, they ended up processing starches/sugar differently. The sugars went right into the blood stream by passing the normal route and the rats ended up gaining weight. I believe it was done by Israeli scientists, i will need to look it up so i can provide the source. When they took them off of the sweeteners the rats went back to normal.

 

[Visaria]

Diet coke is fine to drink. Some artificial sweeteners can make you feel hungry so that's what might have made your acquaintance to gain weight. I know a bodybuilder, when bulking up, drinks diet drinks so he can increase his hunger and be able to eat more.