What is the best country to leave the US for?

Quote from fatrat:

Finally, someone who sees it my way. A lot of people aren't seeing the decay in this country. I think their eyes are too glued to Fox news, or their hearts are fawning over images of past glory.

I see decay in this country. Many of the same ideas you dislike about it I do as well. Wish and hope it doesn't take something like the Great Depression and World Wars to change the mentality. I however would put you into the category of decay. Been around higher education for going on 14 years in many different capacities and when I meet students like you I get tired and pretty hopeless. You won't be able to see it because you are obviously to smart and well educated, but you are a product and an excelerant of our downward spiral in the US. I hope you have a good life and get everything you want and demand. After all that's what life is all about.:(
 
Quote from Stealth Traitor:

So, when are you leaving the US? If everything is so bad, it has got to be soon, right?

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As soon as I find a place that is less tyrannical than this place. Europe is out of the question. The EU is governmental evil. Mexico and Canada will be victims of the NAU.

The leftist-laziness of non-Americans in resisting tyranny has spread to Americans, which is why our country is in such dire straits. That, and the fact that there has been an ongoing program to dumb down people and make them numb to politics, which is how you get people like Eddiefl who're blind supporters of the country in its current state.

If there is a paradise out there with a great record on preserving individual freedoms, I have yet to find it.

Switzerland comes the closest.
 
Quote from Bogan7:

The above is spoken by a truly ignorant tosser who has never been or experienced another less affluent culture.

Fat prat take Australia off your list of countries we have enough small minded bigots here already. Your disappointed with the US they should be disappointed with you and your attitude.

This is almost the exact same pathetic reply you made to a similar thread a while ago..

You sound like some clueless bloody student, I'm suprised some Commie knobjockey like you would have any interest in trading..
Please STFU and stop giving Aussies a bad name.

thanks in advance.
 
fatrat...good luck on ur trek to ur paradise.....the U.S. doesnt need whining losers like you here anyway. People who are constantly complaining about life and taxes here are usually ones that have personal issues wherever they go. Nothing makes me happier than knowing ur exporting ur personal BS issues to another country. Time to trim some of the the "fat" from this great country! C ya .... LOSERRRRRR !!
 
One has to keep an open mind about this. After all this nation was created by people who jumped ship too due to their own beliefs.

Do you then find it surprising that their offspring are evaluating their options again?

We need people to leave as well as come to attain an equilibrium.


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I have found that a lot of successful people have no sense of geographical affiliation. I mean why complain about leaving a country but not about leaving home town or state as part of growing up and pursuing opportunities. Where do the boundries of abandonment begin?

cheers
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Quote from heypa:

I may disagree with present policies but I would never jump ship. A little common sense should indicate to those like rugrat that many more people are trying to get into this country than are trying to leave it. WHAT DO THEY KNOW THAT HE DOESN'T
 
Quote from heypa:

The rat is the typical product of our universities now-a-days.They try hard to convince students that the U.S. is a terrible country. They are trying (with great success) to convince students that unless we convert this country to socialism and subject it to a unified world government the country is doomed. How did we ever get to the point where our press and our universities both seem to hate the country that produced them. I may disagree with present policies but I would never jump ship. A little common sense should indicate to those like rugrat that many more people are trying to get into this country than are trying to leave it. WHAT DO THEY KNOW THAT HE DOESN'T

I'm not sitting in liberal arts classes listening to professors tell me what the nature of affairs is. I'm in graduate school in a quantitative field (think lots and lots of math). When I look at the numbers and growth, it becomes painfully obvious to me that the era of American dominance is over. What's left here are politicians who've distanced themselves from the founding principles (the constitution) and are fighting over the last remnants of prosperity that are left. I'm content to let these idiots squabble over the crumbs while I go in search of the bigger pie.

Why would I want to start a business and innovate in this country when Charlie Rangel in congress is thinking about putting another 4% tax on my income (which is above $150,000/yr)? There's no logic in staying in a country that doesn't look at these sorts of ideas with hostility. The fact that the impoverished and uneducated masses are voting for and propping up more and more buffoons like Rangel is a sign to me that it is time to jump ship.

If you aren't looking at the facts and making the assessment that you should jump ship, you're just misguided. It has nothing to do with what academia is saying. I find it absolutely amazing how many of you are anti-university. It's as if you all flunked out of a low-tier liberal arts college and never went through an engineering/science program anywhere worthwhile.

Blind patriotism makes no sense. It's analogous to staying long in Enron stock instead of switching to cash.
 
Quote from fatrat:

I'm not sitting in liberal arts classes listening to professors tell me what the nature of affairs is. I'm in graduate school in a quantitative field (think lots and lots of math). When I look at the numbers and growth, it becomes painfully obvious to me that the era of American dominance is over. What's left here are politicians who've distanced themselves from the founding principles (the constitution) and are fighting over the last remnants of prosperity that are left. I'm content to let these idiots squabble over the crumbs while I go in search of the bigger pie.

Why would I want to start a business and innovate in this country when Charlie Rangel in congress is thinking about putting another 4% tax on my income (which is above $150,000/yr)? There's no logic in staying in a country that doesn't look at these sorts of ideas with hostility. The fact that the impoverished and uneducated masses are voting for and propping up more and more buffoons like Rangel is a sign to me that it is time to jump ship.

If you aren't looking at the facts and making the assessment that you should jump ship, you're just misguided. It has nothing to do with what academia is saying. I find it absolutely amazing how many of you are anti-university. It's as if you all flunked out of a low-tier liberal arts college and never went through an engineering/science program anywhere worthwhile.

Blind patriotism makes no sense. It's analogous to staying long in Enron stock instead of switching to cash.

The fact that socialists like Rangel and Hilary are getting elected is a good reflection of how many morons we have in this country.
 
I'm slowly building criteria for places to check out, it's a complex question. Today I was talking to a medical technician guy that had done duty in Central and South America. He was teling me about parasite worms, flies that lay eggs in people's sinus cavities, murders galore... drinking water that is pure death nearly...

I want mediterranean weather, ocean breeze, a government that is not medieval, a government that knows they have to keep the drinking water separate from the shit, low taxes, rule of law, environmental sanity, etc. Except for the taxes [and maybe the environuts] parts I'm thinking Coastal Central California :)
 
Quote from maxpi:

I'm slowly building criteria for places to check out, it's a complex question. Today I was talking to a medical technician guy that had done duty in Central and South America. He was teling me about parasite worms, flies that lay eggs in people's sinus cavities, murders galore... drinking water that is pure death nearly...

I want mediterranean weather, ocean breeze, a government that is not medieval, a government that knows they have to keep the drinking water separate from the shit, low taxes, rule of law, environmental sanity, etc. Except for the taxes [and maybe the environuts] parts I'm thinking Coastal Central California :)

Nice part of CA. Unfortunately the water is cold year round and more Great Whites. Chances of running into 1 is very small though. What do you consider Central CA? A lot would say Pismo Beach, San Luis Obispo all the way up to Monterrey, past there would be Northern CA starting from Santa Cruz on up. Everything has its pros and cons as we know. When I live in Santa Cruz the water was 62F in August!:eek:
 
Quote from maxpi:

"... I want... a government that knows they have to keep the drinking water separate from the shit...",

I dunno... that's asking a lot.
 
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