WHAT IS our policy?

Hundreds of Abu Ghraib prisoners freed
Military spokesman says another mass release next Friday

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. authorities released 293 prisoners from Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison Friday, the first mass prisoner release since images of abuse at the hands of the U.S. military surfaced several weeks ago.

About a week ago, there were about 3,800 prisoners at Abu Ghraib. The new U.S. commander of detention operations in Iraq, Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, said he plans to reduce that number to somewhere between 1,500 and 2,000.

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Some prisoner abuse was revealed, so now we've got to suck up a bit and let these thugs back out on the streets. Great PR GW! What a mess. Time to come home.
 
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Hundreds of Abu Ghraib prisoners freed
Military spokesman says another mass release next Friday

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. authorities released 293 prisoners from Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison Friday, the first mass prisoner release since images of abuse at the hands of the U.S. military surfaced several weeks ago.

About a week ago, there were about 3,800 prisoners at Abu Ghraib. The new U.S. commander of detention operations in Iraq, Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, said he plans to reduce that number to somewhere between 1,500 and 2,000.

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Some prisoner abuse was revealed, so now we've got to suck up a bit and let these thugs back out on the streets. Great PR GW! What a mess. Time to come home.

Great points...
 
I guess you would be absolutely "stunned" to learn of the fact that 31,000 "detainees" have thus far been released by U.S. Military forces because they were deemed innocent by military intelligence, and were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
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Some prisoner abuse was revealed, so now we've got to suck up a bit and let these thugs back out on the streets. Great PR GW! What a mess. Time to come home.

yep
 
Double Standards

Friday, May 14, 2004; Page A24


SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.) asked two senior Pentagon officials exactly the right question yesterday about the Bush administration's interpretation of the Geneva Conventions. "If you were shown a video of a United States Marine or an American citizen in control of a foreign power, in a cell block, naked with a bag over their head, squatting with their arms uplifted for 45 minutes, would you describe that as a good interrogation technique or a violation of the Geneva Convention?" The answer is obvious, and Marine Gen. Peter Pace, the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Paul D. Wolfowitz, the deputy secretary of defense, honestly provided it. "I would describe it as a violation," Mr. Pace said. "What you've described to me sounds to me like a violation of the Geneva Convention," Mr. Wolfowitz said.

Case closed -- except that the practices described by Mr. Reed have been designated by the commanding general of U.S. forces in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Ricardo S. Sanchez, as available for use on Iraqi detainees, and certified by the Pentagon as legal under the Geneva Conventions. According to the International Committee of the Red Cross, they have been systematically applied to prisoners across that country. And earlier this week, the bosses of both Mr. Pace and Mr. Wolfowitz, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Richard B. Myers, defended the techniques as appropriate.

Mr. Rumsfeld repeated that defense yesterday. "Anyone who's running around saying the Geneva Convention did not apply in Iraq is either terribly uninformed or mischievous," he told reporters during his visit to Iraq. He has said that the administration accepted that the conventions applied in Iraq, unlike in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where suspected Taliban fighters and al Qaeda terrorists are being held. The question, though, is whether the conventions were followed in Iraq or whether they were systematically violated, as the Red Cross and many war crimes lawyers in and outside the U.S. military have concluded. Mr. Rumsfeld brushed off those conclusions. "Geneva doesn't say what you do when you get up in the morning," he declared. "Some will say . . . it is mental torture to do something that is inconvenient in a certain way for a detainee, like standing up for a long period . . . someone else might say [it] is not in any way abusive or harmful."

Now Mr. Pace and Mr. Wolfowitz have said the techniques approved by Mr. Sanchez would be illegal if used on Americans; Mr. Rumsfeld and Mr. Myers say they are fine as applied to Iraqis. But there are not separate Geneva Conventions for Americans and for the rest of the world.

We learned this week that the Pentagon approved the use of hooding, stress positions, sleep deprivation, intimidation by dogs and prolonged solitary confinement as legal under the Geneva Conventions. By defending that policy, Mr. Rumsfeld is further harming America's reputation while sanctioning the use of similar techniques on captured Americans around the world. Instead of defending their use, the administration should be disavowing them and rededicating itself to international law.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25737-2004May13.html
 
if those in the US wonder, imagine how bad it is for the poor GIs enduring it there.....

Stars & Stripes
Letters to the editor for Thursday, May 13, 2004
European and Mideast editions

What are we accomplishing?

As my deployment in Iraq slowly passes, I ponder many things that my fellow soldiers discuss. One topic never fails to inspire heated debates: What are we U.S. soldiers actually accomplishing here?

I’ve been a soldier for more than 12 years. This is my fifth major deployment, my sixth if Korea is included. I’m no stranger to leaving my family, my goals, and my life behind for a purpose much more important than any one person. I’ve willingly made personal sacrifices and asked for nothing in return. But until now, I’ve always seen the need and the goal.

Most of us are extremely confused as to our mission and the level of success. We were initially told that we were crushing an evil regime and striking a hard blow for the forces of righteousness during the war on terrorism. All of the reasons justifying the war in the beginning, such as links between Iraq’s leadership and terrorist organizations, as well as weapons of mass destruction, have failed to produce tangible fruit.

So suddenly the stated mission was to liberate Iraqis from a cruel and corrupt dictator. We can appreciate this as soldiers, but we wonder where the results are. Our military and political leadership say that the situation is getting better every day for the average citizen. If this is the case, why are these happy people staging attacks and killing us on a daily basis?

The actions of a few may indeed be causing the problem, but the average citizen is not stupid. People know what happens outside their doors. Joe Iraqi may not place the explosive device or launch the mortar round, but if Joe is aware that there’s a weapons cache two doors down and says nothing, he’s silently condoning the action and reaping a share of the results. So once again, why do we persist in giving our time, money and blood to help a nation that doesn’t show the slightest interest in improving its own situation? When is enough actually enough?

Being in Iraq has exposed us to many new experiences. We deal with oven-like temperatures, insects that could inspire horror movies, food shortages, the loss of basic human needs and fear. We put our lives on hold and miss out on events like the births of children. Loved ones die and we can’t say our goodbyes. We sit helplessly as life goes on without us. For some, it’s asking too much. Some GIs decide they’ve given all they can and aren’t willing to give more. But they’re told that they must give more. The GIs who don’t wish to be GIs any longer are kept in the profession. Why? Have they not earned the right to partake in the freedoms that they’ve defended through their giving? It would appear not, and therein lies the tragedy.

We’ll do our jobs to the best of our abilities and continue sacrificing, making due with whatever we’re given. We can be counted on to do what’s right and moral and just. We can be counted on to deal with others fairly. Should we expect or settle for anything less from others?

Sgt. Erik C. Barbrick
Logistical Support Area Anaconda, Iraq
 
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if those in the US wonder, imagine how bad it is for the poor GIs enduring it there.....


Awesome post, Madison. Thanks.
 
Another great post by Madison!

I hope that everyone has the chance to read it in its entirety.
God Bless our troops and the sacrifice they are making for our Country!
 
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