What is conciousness?

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what evidence is there that "kenny" has anything going on.. :p
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There are some instances in life where trying to explain something in words would only insult the integrity of it. This is one of those. "Kenny" is quite impressive. He is truly amazing.
 
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I am reading the new sciAm. It has an article on consciousness. As I read this thing, it seems like so much nonsense....

...I still believe that the best exposition on consciousness is Penrose's take on it in the book, the Emperors New mind:

To summarize the book, he says that the way we think is not computational in the sense of computers, but quantum mechanical. He goes on to "prove" that by showing that we don't think in steps, but make incredible leaps in understanding that no computer could ever do given their sequential and serial "thinking."

While this is no explanation either, at least it tries to guide research to look for the way we "compute" away from these simple minded notions of consciousness.

nitro
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Excellent question, Nitro..

As you have probably noted, any article, magazine, book, tv show, whatever that attempts to answer the question 'what is consciousness' may be full of fascinating info about the workings of the brain and how various things can influence consciousness but nobody can tell us what consciousness is per se.

"What is consciousness?" is known to philosophers and scientists as the hard question of consciousness and no one has ever come close to answering it without referring to entities that themselves are indescribable.

I believe that one reason we can't describe consciousness is very simple - consciousness has too few properties to permit a meaningful description.

Having said all this, it's still a great topic for discussion.

Hans
 
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to take to accept responsibility for the code will vary based on your basic reaction. Do not judge yourself for the ease or challenge of accepting responsibility for the code. Rest, relax, be patient. Accepting responsibility is key, so no matter how long the time, the time is very well spent.

Accepting responsibility for the code and accepting (or allowing) your reaction to it is different than reaccepting the code into the mind. When you step into your power as creator and choose to accept responsibility, including choosing to accept the effects of the code as you previously interpreted it, you are also choosing not to reaccept the code. If you were reaccepting the same code into the mind you would not be pausing to see that this line of code need not be. You would not recognize your power. You would not be aware that there is another way to see. So whenever you pause to look at the code, you are changing the code by shifting to another vibrational level.

It is true that this is not a true edit of the code. The symbol of editing is useful, but at the level of individual that power does not exist. Remember, the total layered code comes from the totality, so by choosing another way to see, you are choosing to shift vibrationally to another layer of the same basic code. Every option is already written, but the option you choose affects the overall writing of every layer of code.

Experience is different than reality and to try to reconcile the two through intellect is an impossibility. But reality and its effect on experience is understood through non-intellect. It cannot be put into words, but it can be seen and it can be seen clearly. Still, when it is seen it is seen from a perspective that isn’t totality since individual interpretation always applies. Individual interpretation is your freedom, and your freedom combined with the totality of all creates the unlimited potential that is God.

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How to take to accept responsibility for the code ? Could you please develop this a little bit further... I have some pain to fully understand. Thx.
 
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I am extremely excited about this:

"Quantum Water" Discovered in Carbon Nanotubes
A new quantum state of water found in carbon nanotubes at room temperature could have important implications for life.

http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26319/?ref=rss

Go Penrose!!!!
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I tried to read that link or I should say I tried to understand it, I did read it I wish I understood it because I am interested in explorations of consciousness; it ranks right up there with
the orgins of existence as to the most provocative questions.

The paragraph:

"Departures of the momentum distribution of the protons from that of bulk water are so large we believe that the nano-confined water can be properly described as being in a qualitatively different quantum ground state from that of bulk water,"they say.

Coming away from descriptions like that with understanding seem about as elusive as knowing the position and momentum of a subatomic particle simultaneously.

From a laymans attempt I'm trying to get onboard from the approach of, quantum physics holding an answer to consciousness from where it disappears into some netherworld
then returns with instructions --and-- given that water makes up, what is it 75% of our anatomy, accounting for a path to consciousness origins is in there somewhere somehow. I think theres fertile ground in the words "qualitatively different quantum ground state" ....still that only leads to more questions than any eureka moment. Seems every time we get closer to explanations the Truth retracts leaving us still empty handed. Almost makes you want to get religion ...nah!
 
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... --and-- given that water makes up, what is it 75% of our anatomy, accounting for a path to consciousness origins is in there somewhere somehow. ...
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!OMEGA!

I tend to agree with this. Especially since water is the great emulsifier (correct use of this word?) and conductor... not to mention a whole host of other properties in both the physical and meta-physical worlds.
 
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Or said another way, the idea is not shared into the mind that is the Sonship.

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I am...

Have you been influenced by 'A Course in Miracles'? The wording and writing style you use here and what is in that text seems very similar. I enjoyed reading your posts even if I don't fully understand all of what you are saying yet. Can you recommend some more books that have influenced you? Thanks.
 
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I think theres fertile ground in the words "qualitatively different quantum ground state" ....still that only leads to more questions than any eureka moment. Seems every time we get closer to explanations the Truth retracts leaving us still empty handed. Almost makes you want to get religion ...nah!
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This is by design, so the suckers who will give their life, hope and pleasure to such pursuit end empty handed ^^
 
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