What if we did not bail out the banks?

If I screw up my business, my company fails and nobody bails me out.

Its time we had a little downsizing for "organizations too big to fail"

AIG is/was run by idiots. They are being sold off and none too soon.

Bank of America was broken up before when it got to big. Its time to do that again.

Same goes for the rest of them: Citibank, GM, yada yada.:mad:
 
Quote from Capablanca:

You can print all the money in the world but if people are not productively employed it will all be for naught. Goods and services people. Goods and services.

Giving money to the people directly is not a permanent solution. The problem is the financial system is broken. The water pump is broken. Have you ever tried going through a day without running water? Try and you'll soon realize you cannot be very productive without it. The government can ship a whole lot of bottled water to the people but when it runs out you still have a broken pump and no water coming through.

whats the problem then? The fed? printing money out of thin air? bank reserve requirements? I am assuming all and more.
 
Quote from Capablanca:

The water pump is broken. The government can ship a whole lot of bottled water to the people but when it runs out you still have a broken pump and no water coming through.
From what I hear, the pump is so damn old they no longer make any spare parts. In that case, isn't it much better to dole out free bottle of water while the whole reservoir is thrown upside down to make room for the latest state-of-the-art water pump?

Why the hell are we wasting money and time trying to patch up different parts when the whole damn thing is broken? The whole system must be uprooted.
 
Quote from telozo:

Banks are like any other for-profit business. They are nothing special. You people have been brainwashed to believe that banks have a special status and that the world would crumble if, god forbid, a bank will fail. Get a grip of yourselves. It's all smoke and mirrors people.

I couldnt have put it better.
 
Quote from Capablanca:

You can print all the money in the world but if people are not productively employed it will all be for naught. Goods and services people. Goods and services.

Giving money to the people directly is not a permanent solution. The problem is the financial system is broken. The water pump is broken. Have you ever tried going through a day without running water? Try and you'll soon realize you cannot be very productive without it. The government can ship a whole lot of bottled water to the people but when it runs out you still have a broken pump and no water coming through.

That analogy is wrong. Sorry.

Roughly half US banks are insolvent.

The others are fine.

The good banks have money to lend - but won't - because the bad banks control the bulk of credit that enters the market.

In order for the economy to recover, lending must resume - predominately, from the Bad Banks.

The Bad Banks won't lend because they're hoarding cash to forgo impending bankruptcy.

And the Good Banks won't lend because the broader economic recovery is dependent on Bad Banks (who won't lend).

The system is not "broken", per se.

More like, the system is "Seized up" with crap.

To unclog the pipes, the shitty (Citi) Banks need to get flushed.

All the Crap Banks need to go under.

Then Good Banks will lend as they control the dominate share of credit that enters the market and can be sure their self-motivated actions will lead to a recovering economy, and asset values on which their loans will be made.

So its really just a case of letting the Shit Banks go under, and the Good Banks rise up and take their place.

There was a term people used for this not too long ago. Its on the tip of my tongue....Creative, something. Oh yea: CREATIVE DESTRUCTION

People say that type of Darwinian Capitalism is what made America Great. Imagine that?! On a trading board, no less.

Why do I get the impression 98% of the posters on here listen to those idiots at CNBC all day??!?!?
 
Quote from achilles28:


All the Crap Banks need to go under.

Then Good Banks will lend as they control the dominate share of credit that enters the market and can be sure their self-motivated actions will lead to a recovering economy, and asset values on which their loans will be made.

So its really just a case of letting the Shit Banks go under, and the Good Banks rise up and take their place.

There was a term people used for this not too long ago. Its on the tip of my tongue....Creative, something. Oh yea: CREATIVE DESTRUCTION

People say that type of Darwinian Capitalism is what made America Great. Imagine that?! On a trading board, no less.

Why do I get the impression 98% of the posters on here listen to those idiots at CNBC all day??!?!?

They tried that before with the banks during something called The Great Depression. Hasn't been too popular since then. I wonder why?

Nevertheless, they tried something following the same logic recently with Lehman Brothers---and backtracked the very next day after the feared cascading domino effect started to rear its ugly head with the money market fund breaking the buck.

I've been perusing stuff like this:

Systemic Banking Crises: A New Database

What have you been looking at?
 
Quote from glennku:

Where did this $10 Trillion come from?
Folks, these are just numbers. They don't mean shit. When the press reports that Uncle Sam is forking over $1 Trillion of taxpayer money to bail out these idiotic banks, ya think you'll personally get something in return (as a taxpayer) when the economy turns around? Think again.
 
How does everybody like your tax dollars paying for the stupid citiFX ad at the top of the page? You would have to be crazy to fund an account with citiFX with C stock a $1. Let all worthless banks and insurance companies go under so the rest can move on.
 
Quote from Fractals 'R Us:


Before this crisis was widely known my Credit Union was asking for my ID before I could deposit money to my own account!! What the frell was that about? .

My credit union never did this.
 
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