what if jesus really did assend into the sky....

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What if you are wrong, eh?
honestly for my situation it's irrelevant
but just to patronize you:cheesewhizarrow

Just ran a systems check on the universe , yep still there.

Probability of being wrong infinitesimal.
Religious validations intact.
 
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in the same silly fashion; using your tautology as an example...
If the "god particle" does need a creator, then there's simply no need for an atheist.
If a creator doesn't need a creator, it's just another description for no need of an atheist without even establishing the need for an atheist in the first place.
Lol. Obviously in your case there isn't even a need for intelligence.
 
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Lol. Obviously in your case there isn't even a need for intelligence.

not when using your specious logic as the framework.
 
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The Rabbis that turned Jesus in, and watched him get nailed against a cross in a savage way, surely do not believe the speed thing. If they could get the son of god killed in public and in such a brutal manner and nothing happened to them, what do you think they would think of the son of god if they thought of themselves as humans?

Ah, but doesn't it say in the Bible

"My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways,' says the Lord.
'For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:8-9


If this is so (and by definition, God would not have the ways and thoughts of mere mortal men), then your interpretation is one of a man, and only a man.


So this is the way to spot charlatans - they claim to know the mind of God.
And those who would seek to impose a penalty on you using that claim - are the worst.
 
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So this is the way to spot charlatans - they claim to know the mind of God.
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You know you've created god in your own image when it turns out he hates all the same people you do."-Anne Lamott
 
getting back on topic. if you are a christian when you read a story in the bible about a guy walking through fire and not getting burned do you ever ask yourself. how is that possible?
in another thread we talked about critical thinking. critical thinking is asking "how is that possible" and coming up with a truthful answer even if the answer is its not possible.

Nebuchadnezzar shouted. "I see four men, unbound, walking around in the fire unharmed!Daniel 3:25

When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze. Isaiah 43:2
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

You know you've created god in your own image when it turns out he hates all the same people you do."-Anne Lamott

Now that is right on the money.
 
Quote from Free Thinker:

You know you've created god in your own image when it turns out he hates all the same people you do."-Anne Lamott

+100.

This is the "I am YOUR God" syndrome.

What that person really is, is a blasphemer - someone who claims to have the same knowledge and insights as God.
 
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+100.

This is the "I am YOUR God" syndrome.

What that person really is, is a blasphemer - someone who claims to have the same knowledge and insights as God.
since the concept of a god only exists in a believers mind it is not surprizing that they would have the same knowledge and insights and prejudice and hatred as their god.
 
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since the concept of a god only exists in a believers mind it is not surprizing that they would have the same knowledge and insights and prejudice and hatred as their god.

That would be an over-generalization for New Testament readers.

The most salient points of the N.T. would be:

Matthew 22:37-40, "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

There is no provision, no addendum at the end of that second commandment. For the time, the most obvious one would have been, "Unless they are Roman".

It is not there.

So "believers" can gauge themselves by how well they adhere to those 2 commandments. I suppose an atheist can gauge himself by how well he/she adheres to the second.
 
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