Fuck that. I've talked to people who grew up in the old Soviet Union and didn't leave until they were in their 30's and older and those people have told me some horror stories.
What I Like About Communism
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Good if you were not thinking about millions perished in Stalin's gulag, Brezhnev's psychological jails. Yes, we shared a great friendship, we were losing in never-ending cultural and literary debates, yeas it was never dangerous to become homeless and if you were starting to make a borsh and lucking some products it was normal to ask your neighbor, as he/she will do next time for when they will cook. yes, it was big catering together for birthdays and all together helping to cook. But then we were also constantly spied by KGB infiltrated agents. Germany at least punished some Nazi and Nazism as general, we do not. Who were the killers, who were the agents, if Stalin's terror and Brezhnev's torture? And they their heirs are still unpunished, living without shame and repentance. Being part of SS or Gestapo is a shame for the whole family in Germany, what about countries of ex-USSR, we even does not know the names of NKVD-KGB torturers! Communism is a dream, it was not in the USSR. the stage if awareness, we can live above politics, without struggle and pain. It was great and cruel experiment artificially imposed upon our population and happily succeeded to eradicate 156 mln person(estimate including those who would be born, if their parents weren't killed). You call it good old times? What you were doing and your family? Yes, I know, this member is a long time gone... Just found this post and cannot support to see someone applaud one side and totally omitting the horror side.
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Yes, on paper, until the human's consciousness will arise at the point to not have greed, envy. With more traders in the world, successful traders, it will happen. It will be another world and Karl Marks as first and the main tool of exploitation has named mains of production, detained by rich and too expensive for the poor. But this can not stand in today world - how many businesses one can start online? The initial investment to start a business is accessible to everyone in developed countries. So the whole theory of capitalism to fall cannot stand. But also capitalism will be transformed - from greed and competition, to share and cooperate.I read the writing of Karl Marx, Leninism and the Russian revolution as part of the political science school curriculum in the Eighties. There were no Russian bots then! So do not be paranoid. The communism theory is a wonderful thing on paper but in reality, it is very hard to apply, because it goes against the natural grain of the human greed.
Nevertheless, Karl Marx said that capitalism would fall from within for two reasons: the first reason is that the gap between the rich and the poor will keep growing to the point where the poor cannot take it anymore and eventually will revolt. (At this time, this reason is somewhat neutralized by the spread of social services in the capitalist world, but it is still in play. They are trying to eliminate the 2nd amendment for this reason folks!!
The second reason he said is that, the capitalist countries will fight among themselves on the world market share and this will eventually cause them to go into wars among themselves and destroy capitalism. (You can see this unfolding today in front of your own eyes! It is called trade wars)
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Not with this name, not with the consciousness level of today people. And most of all - the paradise cannot be imposed by violence.
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They didn`t?Why is that?The USSR didn`t unleash wars around the globe like the US did and been doing till these days.15 different countries with different cultures coexisted together, peacefully.
They were always meddling and trying to cause trouble. Such as Cuba, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Europe, North Korea etc.
Back in the 1960s there was one Commie Brit who used to collect suitcases of cash from the Russian Embassy to bribe British workers to strike. British Leyland and others collapsed.
"Peacefully" bribing workers to strike in contrast to what US did and been doing.Interesting how you compare things.Compare this:
for your reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
Well, while certainly when were two forces in the world the atrocities like in Libya, Iraq, Syria did not happen and no one dares to bombard against UN vote, but, please do not say peacefully, Volga Germans, Finns, Romanians, Italians, and Greeks and Crimean Tartars forcibly deported. Yes, it was during WWII, and the USA did the same with Japanese.
But agree, we were one big family and still be, and the Nazi- nationalists were not seen.... it is absolutely unbearable to see them marching the street of my Odessa, imposing their language, with the Benedera's photos. Where on Earth one can march today with the massacres organizer and those marches would be commented as marches for freedom? Freedom of what? Of all civil and human values? And those individuals are bringing democracy? What can be more insulting?
But the good news, capitalism is transforming. When our kids started to attend American school we were so surprised by social studies and the questions about how parents are contributing to the community. This is something real, not just blind obeying to slogans and somehow brilliant future, as is was in communist time. This is real sharing and brotherhood of modern world, slowly developing into the major trend.