What has Obama done???

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

...Many pro lifers fight for a kid for 9 months but thats where the love ends.Whens its time to pay for housing,food ,education , medical care for 18 years with their tax dollars when the mother cant they're not as supportive

You're confusing and over simplifying these issues, brother AK.
The correct answers are two-fold:

1. Don't get pregnant.
2. If you do, don't expect others to handle your responsibility.

Yeah, accidents do happen.
So does responsibility.
The difference is that responsibility ain't no accident.

(I apologize to the Obama administration and any liberals reading this post for my use of the offensive word: responsibility.)
 
Quote from BSAM:

You're confusing and over simplifying these issues, brother AK.
The correct answers are two-fold:

1. Don't get pregnant.
2. If you do, don't expect others to handle your responsibility.

Yeah, accidents do happen.
So does responsibility.
The difference is that responsibility ain't no accident.

(I apologize to the Obama administration and any liberals reading this post for my use of the offensive word: responsibility.)

A woman, poor, unemployed, single, addicted to drugs, is the mother of two that have been taken away from by the state
finds herself pregnant. What's the responsible choice here?
I'd say it's terminating that preganancy rather than playing craps with the child to be. The woman doesn't want another kid and decides to get an abortion, clinic or back alley.

A woman, single, with a graduate degree and a mid six figure paying position at a prestigious company finds herself pregnant. (Lucrum, she is one of those dreaded limousine libtards)
She swore never to have kids. She is going to get an abortion. She'll do it here as long as it remains legal, or she'll abort in another country. If she doesn't want that kid, she isn't going to have it and putting up hurdles isn't going to stop her. What are you going to do, institute a global ban on abortion and force every woman who becomes pregnant to have a child? Good luck with that.

No matter what administration is in place, no matter how responsible society as a whole becomes, the above scenarios will play out for ages. BSAM, your just say no answer is impractical.
And as it does not even remotely deal effectively with real life situations, it is not, in my opinion, a responsible position to take.

However, if the two hypothetical women decide to have those children, no one can say they cannot. It's their choice, not mine, not yours.No one told my ex-wife she had to keep our babies or not. We made that choice. We planned for each pregnancyand kept every child, save for a heartbreaking miscarriage.

My personal solution: Put sperm on ice and have a vasectomy. A single man's insurance policy.
 
Quote from BSAM:

You're confusing and over simplifying these issues, brother AK.
The correct answers are two-fold:

1. Don't get pregnant.
2. If you do, don't expect others to handle your responsibility.

Yeah, accidents do happen.
So does responsibility.
The difference is that responsibility ain't no accident.

(I apologize to the Obama administration and any liberals reading this post for my use of the offensive word: responsibility.)

As in those who use emergency rooms with no health insurance, and won't take the responsibility to pay at least something in the form of a tax or fine? Isn't that what the Affordable Care Act does? Helps people take responsibility? Right?
 
Quote from mrbill:

As in those who use emergency rooms with no health insurance, and won't take the responsibility to pay at least something in the form of a tax or fine? Isn't that what the Affordable Care Act does? Helps people take responsibility? Right?

What are you going to do next year if Obama tells you that you have to buy a GM product if you buy a new vehicle because it's "for the good of the country"?
 
Quote from L-Kabong:

...BSAM, your just say no answer is impractical....

No, brother Bong, you're just a little mixed up.
It's worked for tens of millions of us for many years.

And, no matter how hard you try to fool yourself, you just can't justify murder of an innocent baby.

Lay off the kool-aid.
 
It's been a fun day.
You liberals always make it entertaining around here.
You guys need to tell your friends about ET.
The more, the merrier.
Thanks.
 
Quote from BSAM:

No, brother Bong, you're just a little mixed up.
It's worked for tens of millions of us for many years.

And, no matter how hard you try to fool yourself, you just can't justify murder of an innocent baby.

Lay off the kool-aid.

Works for some, not for all. I can justify abortion, but I cannot convince you that it is not murder. And you can't convince me that it is. I accept our differences, and I respect your point of view and feel that I understand the depth of feeling that underlay your position. I don't like abortion, but I don't equate it as murder and don't want to criminalize it. I'd prefer it whither away naturally by effective and available birth control, and the prudent use of such birth control.
 
Quote from L-Kabong:

A woman, poor, unemployed, single, addicted to drugs, is the mother of two that have been taken away from by the state
finds herself pregnant. What's the responsible choice here?

The issue I have is that the above example makes pregnancy seem like you were outside on a picnic and all of a sudden it began raining.

Pregnancy can be avoided by simple concepts - the use of a condom, for example. Intelligence is also a big factor in preventing pregnancy.
 
Quote from RCG Trader:

http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.html

He Returned The Executive Branch To Fiscal Responsibility After the Bush Debacle

1. Within his first week, he signed an Executive Order ordering an audit of government contracts, and combating waste and abuse. http://1.usa.gov/dUvbu5

2. Created the post of Chief Performance Officer, whose job it is to make operations more efficient to save the federal government money. http://n.pr/hcgBn1

3. On his first full day, he froze White House salaries. http://on.msnbc.com/ewJUIx

4. He appointed the first Federal Chief Information Officer to oversee federal IT spending. http://www.cio.gov

5. He committed to phasing out unnecessary and outdated weapons systems. To that end, he also signed the Democratic-sponsored Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act, which attempted to put a stop to waste, fraud and abuse in the defense procurement and contracting system. http://bit.ly/hOw1t1 http://bit.ly/fz8GAd

6. Through an executive order, he created the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. http://bit.ly/hwKhKa

Chavez of Venezuela probably did similar things... Obama can one-up him though, I can just hear it: "yeah but before I make a move I chat up old George Soros, that dude can turn anything into gold, man"
 
Quote from AK Forty Seven:

What Paul and Romney agree on is mostly what I disagree with Paul on.I'm willing to compromise if I get some of the things I want,foreign policy,defense cuts ,drug war and civil liberties.Romney and the neocons arn't offering any of those things
Obama is still fighting foreign wars, fucking up ME policy and the drug war is going full tilt last I checked.
 
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