What has changed in the oil market? Even the God of oil trading has fallen.

that is some amazing confidence. 2 years of unwavering bullishness. i might be an idiot but i feel his arguments were rather simplistic. but one can't have a x00mm net worth simply by being a mad & blind bull in 2013-2014 ... right ?
In the permian they can break even at 30 or even 25 for some. at 50 they make great money. liquidity is bountiful with houston/texas/dallas PE firms streamlining easy money to whoever manages to hedge out 1/2/3 years. Plenty of skillful west texans to manage these businesses. Acreage pricing is raising like there is no tomorrow.
I studied the model for oil which the IMF uses (and i suspect a lot of institutions have a very similar one). It does indeed predict oil in 60+ range by any variation of parameters but the betas it uses(supply elasticity) has no grasp on the nimble production that we have today in West texas.
2 ways for OPEC&Co.
rates normalize and money tightens enough to raise the BE in the permian
learn to live with 30bucks oil which would actually allow them to gain back marketshare.
 
Well, you suggested he was long in the 2022 - 2024 area, so I it's the spread I looked at, rather than the Z7Z8.

If I were long some part of the yield curve, yes, it would be 100% fair to say that I am long rates. In rates, as well as in commodities, it's reasonably well-established that the first factor (outright direction) dominates.

And yes, I agree, his fund made money in 2014. It's, obviously, impossible to know what precisely didn't work out for him in 2015 - present, but let me give you a flavor of the various quotes I can find in BBG:

May 2015: “We have now reached a turning point,” Hall said in a letter Friday to investors in Astenbeck Capital Management LLC, his commodities hedge fund. Growing demand and supply pullbacks “rendered all the doomsday forecasts self-defeating.”

Jul 2015: “Phenomenal demand growth in most markets” has stemmed a surplus in oil supply that, at 240 million barrels, is about half what most analysts predicted, Hall wrote in a letter to investors in his Astenbeck Capital Management dated July 1.

Sep 2015: The absence of “extreme contango,” which occurs when commodities prices close to delivery are cheaper than those to be delivered at later dates, suggests that “the world, whilst moderately oversupplied, is not awash in oil,” Hall said in a letter to investors.


Nov 2015: Astenbeck’s Hall Expects Oil Prices to Reverse. Astenbeck’s Andy Hall expects that rig counts will continue to drop. “We think the degree of negativity is unwarranted,” Hall, who runs $2.6 billion hedge fund Astenbeck Capital Management, said Nov. 4.

Jan 2016: Astenbeck Capital Management Chairman/CEO Andrew Hall, in Jan. 4 letter obtained by Bloomberg, says shorter-term headwinds “ultimately trumped” by longer-term outlook for oil prices, which “remains firmly to the upside.”

Feb 2016: As oil production slows and the daily over-supply becomes a deficit, inventories will rapidly shrink and force prices into a sustained rise “from levels that are required to destroy supply to levels that are required to create it,” Hall said. He projected West Texas Intermediate, which settled at $32.28 a barrel today, to rally to the $60-$80 range.

Mar 2016: *ASTENBECK’S HALL SAYS REASON TO BELIEVE OIL ‘BOTTOM IS NOW IN’

Aug 2016: After taking a pounding for two months, global oil prices are set for a “violent reversal" upwards, storied oil trader Andy Hall is telling his investors. “The market is being driven by its own momentum and currently that is down," Hall wrote to investors in his Stamford, Connecticut, hedge fund, AstenbeckCapital Management LLC. “But extreme positioning coupled with improving fundamentals should ultimately – and at potentially any time – result in a strong reversal."

Oct 2016: Dismissing skeptics, storied hedge fund manager Andy Hall said OPEC’s promise last week to limit crude production was a “significant development" that will accelerate the end of the global surplus bogging down oil prices. A cut in production “will bring forward the drawdown in excess oil inventories and associated increase in oil prices to a market that appears already to have achieved a balance between supply and demand," he said.

May 2017: After a "frustrating month for oil bulls," trader Andy Hall is challenging assumptions about the market, telling investors the magnitude of the inventory glut may be "significantly less than generally believed." "More investors have lost patience and thrown in the towel," Hall wrote to investors in his Stamford, Connecticut, hedge fund, Astenbeck Capital Management LLC. "We must confess to a high degree of frustration ourselves." "The inventory excess is being eliminated but not in places where it is readily observed," the letter said. "That should change over the coming months."

Jun 2017: Contrary to the “sea of negative sentiment" in crude markets, global inventories should fall at a higher pace in the second half of 2017,Astenbeck Capital Management LLC’s Andy Hall says in latest investor letter.

I can copy and paste too. To quote Andy Hall this summer:


“Whereas it once seemed positions could be held with an eye to a longer term secular appreciation, that is no longer the case.”

Mr Hall said his fund would now take a more “opportunistic” approach to trading, abandoning his long-term bullish positions in favour of a more tactical short-term approach.
 
I can copy and paste too. To quote Andy Hall this summer:


“Whereas it once seemed positions could be held with an eye to a longer term secular appreciation, that is no longer the case.”

Mr Hall said his fund would now take a more “opportunistic” approach to trading, abandoning his long-term bullish positions in favour of a more tactical short-term approach.
Well, the announcement that he's shutting down the fund after a 30% YTD loss also came this summer. It would seem that the switch to a more "opportunistic" approach may have come too late.
 
Well, the announcement that he's shutting down the fund after a 30% YTD loss also came this summer. It would seem that the switch to a more "opportunistic" approach may have come too late.

Well, I'm sure he became more tactical before this summer. That was just when he was quoted. Anyway, it's obvious simply being long is not what did him in. Oil was just above 50 to start the year and it's a tad below that now. Not really a good way to explain losing 30%. The front end of the curve got lit up though. That WOULD explain some of the losses if that is indeed what happened.
 
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Andurand hedge fund’s $100 oil bet stands out from the herd

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August 10, 2017 by: David Sheppard, Energy Markets Editor

Hedge fund manager Pierre Andurand’s bet that oil will return to $100 a barrel has caught the attention of an industry more accustomed to energy executives warning they must prepare their companies to survive with prices less than half that level. It is a call that pitches the French-born trader against some of the biggest trends that have come to dominate the oil market outlook, from the US shale oil revolution to the rise of electric cars, which have led the majority of investors to believe oil prices will be capped near $50 for the foreseeable future. So far this year, Mr Andurand is nursing losses, with his fund having dropped 15 per cent. But his record of bold bets paying off — Andurand has returned investors in his eponymous $1.1bn fund a cumulative 560 per cent since 2008 — means it could be foolish to dismiss outright his call of $100 oil by 2020.....

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Geopolitical reasons aside, I cannot see the case for $100 oil.

Then again, I'm 61 years old and I've never seen your country with a president of the sort you have now, so oil at a price money can't buy is not unimaginable either.

It might just be traded spot at local level.
 
Geopolitical reasons aside, I cannot see the case for $100 oil.

Then again, I'm 61 years old and I've never seen your country with a president of the sort you have now, so oil at a price money can't buy is not unimaginable either.

It might just be traded spot at local level.

If you read the entire article above it's actually a pretty well thought out thesis. For the record, Brent is much more vulnerable to an upside move then WTI.
 
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