What happened to global warming?

[kut2k2]

Quote from maxpi:

Scientists are communally stupid... guys like Einstein and the other physicists beat their brains out trying to explain things... then the radiotelescope came along and made it obvious that the Universe has a huge electromagnetic component... scientists are fighting the new guys that want to look at the electrical component tooth and nail even though the newer thinking generates very simple answers for things that scientists are still beating their brains out over... so now some guy is going to make a presentation where he talks about charged solar particles affecting the atmo... probably the audience will engage in extensive beard scratching as they try to figure out how this will affect their department, research budget, retirement, fear of being ridiculed... and proceed to trash the guy somehow...

Immanuel Velikovsky was writing about the electromagnetic universe long before anybody else... what a guy... and he was looking at ancient myths and taking them at face value and finding much evidence that indeed, they are not myths at all... in reality he should go into the history books as one of the greatest scientists of all time maybe but he's relegated to the Popular Science area because he dared to question the Conventional Wisdom.. it's not any different today than Galileo's day...

I've learned from all this, there is little use in fighting uphill against stupidity... Schlieman read the ancient myths, found Troy, looted the shit out of it and the academics are still villifying him... academics of the time refused to look at the ancient myths as factual and they lost the bet, they should stfu... they were second in that race, and as far as I'm concerned they are sniveling second place losers to this very day...

You're a Velikovsky-ite! Well that certainly explains a lot.

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from TGregg:

$#&^ing cavemen, driving their wheels (ala B.C.), causing global warming 10,000 years ago - it's a wonder that Mother Gia survived.

High time we started taxing the bejezzus out of cavemen. Anything to get rid of those dumb Geico commercials.

Unfortunately the cavemen were the best GEICO commercials. It's that damn lizard and the money stack with eyes that I can't stand.

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from drjekyllus:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm

... the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.

As usual, mrheckylus, you are wrong.

I trust NASA more than I trust the BBC:

http://climateprogress.org/2007/12/...warmest-year-ever-warmest-year-likely-by-2010

Through the first 11 months, 2007 is the second warmest year in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis.

Even an “unusually cold” December, would only drop 2007 to the third warmest year ever. NASA points out:

The six warmest years in the GISS record have all occurred since 1998, and the 15 warmest years in the record have all occurred since 1988.

Anyone notice a trend?

 

[nutmeg]

Saudi Arabian climate treaty participants said to be demanding kickbacks from the rest of the world as a quid pro-quo for their participation in reduction of oil to reduce global warming.

 

[maxpi]

Quote from kut2k2:


Anyone notice a trend?

Yup, all the other planets temperatures are tracking along with the earth... it can't be man made..

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from maxpi:

Yup, all the other planets temperatures are tracking along with the earth... it can't be man made..

Source?

 

[maxpi]

Quote from kut2k2:

Source?

NASA

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from maxpi:

NASA

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060913-sunspots.html

 

[dcraig]

Quote from maxpi:

Yup, all the other planets temperatures are tracking along with the earth... it can't be man made..

It's bland assertions like this that are so typical of AGW deniers.

For a start there is no evidence that all the moons and planets of the solar system are warming.

There is evidence that some are warming, but that in no way implies that the same mechanisms are at work in each case and for that matter change in climate on any other planet can assumed to be due to the same processes as affecting the climate of the Earth.

For example warming on Mars is thought to be due to abnormally high winds and dust storms reducing the planets albedo (the capacity of the planet to reflect solar radiation back into space). This may be cyclical.

Every planet has it's own story to tell and only detailed research can unravel some of it.

Which is a long way removed from the "logic" that goes:

Some planets warming => must be the sun => no such thing as AGW

More info here:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-other-planets-solar-system.htm

 

[kut2k2]

Quote from dcraig:

It's bland assertions like this that are so typical of AGW deniers.

For a start there is no evidence that all the moons and planets of the solar system are warming.

There is evidence that some are warming, but that in no way implies that the same mechanisms are at work in each case and for that matter change in climate on any other planet can assumed to be due to the same processes as affecting the climate of the Earth.

For example warming on Mars is thought to be due to abnormally high winds and dust storms reducing the planets albedo (the capacity of the planet to reflect solar radiation back into space). This may be cyclical.

Every planet has it's own story to tell and only detailed research can unravel some of it.

Which is a long way removed from the "logic" that goes:

Some planets warming => must be the sun => no such thing as AGW

More info here:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-other-planets-solar-system.htm

Thanks, dcraig. I knew when maxpi didn't supply a link that he was talking out of his ass.