This is obvious, Nitro. Your posts on gun control are so very clueless that what is clear is that you understand there is a problem (like the rest of us), but you don't get the background on why there is a problem, hence your presented solutions are always pie in the sky and unrealistic, even comical.
What does gun violence really COST
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This is obvious, Nitro. Your posts on gun control are so very clueless that what is clear is that you understand there is a problem (like the rest of us), but you don't get the background on why there is a problem, hence your presented solutions are always pie in the sky and unrealistic, even comical.
Where in this thread do you present the reason for gun violence? Are you saying that you are able to diagnose the problem, or that in addition you have proposed a solution?
Don't mean to have you do the extra work, but if you could point to (or just summarize again) the pages for
- Why there is a problem
- How to solve that problem
I am willing to listen.
Ah, so it has to be in this thread. Got it.
There are mountains of information on the collapse of the African American family unit pointing to the continuation of a vicious cycle of violence. In addition, income inequality, the (failed) war on drugs, etc...But these are complex issues at the root cause, and no one wants to address the complex. It's much easier to go after law abiding citizens with plans that fail to address the simple fact that there are over 4 million illegally owned firearms in this country, and hundreds of millions of legally owned ones. You will never.ever.ever.be able to control firearms with stupid legislation. People intent on committing murder don't give a damn about what laws you put in place for insurance, or making firearms illegal. It's about access to firearms. You can't control the access (because that ship has sailed). So focus instead on the above mentioned issues, and things like mental health, etc.
This may be the best way to measure gun violence in America
In Canton, Ohio, one of the most common complaints that police chief Bruce Lawver hears is about gunfire. Shots fired. That unnerving pop of a firearm being discharged.
Last year, at least 772 bullets were fired in one tiny part of Canton, a city of 73,000 people. That is more than two bullets every day.
Yet, either by luck or intent, relatively few of these projectiles hit anyone. Gunfire across the entire city of Canton resulted in eight homicides, 11 suicides and 25 non-fatal injuries in 2015, according to police statistics.
This is how gun violence is usually measured — in the cold calculation of deaths and injuries.
But that familiar yardstick misses a lot.
It does not account for all the times when a gun is fired in anger, fear or by accident and the bullet simply misses its mark. Yet whether a bullet kills or injures someone is an almost random outcome from a violent act. It is influenced by the shooter’s aim, if the bullet happens to strike vital organs and even how far a victim must travel to reach a hospital trauma center.
“It’s just not the whole picture,” said Jennifer Doleac, an assistant professor of public policy at the University of Virginia, who studies the connection between gunfire and crime. “There’s a lot more gun violence than what is reflected in homicide rates.”
The more telling number about gun violence might be “shots fired.” And now, thanks to broader adoption of new technologies, it is getting easier to show just how common gun violence is in America.
Last year, there were 165,531 separate gunshots recorded in 62 different urban municipalities nationwide, including places such as San Francisco, Washington, D.C., St. Louis and Canton, according to ShotSpotter, the company behind a technology that listens for gunfire's acoustic signature and reports it to authorities....
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...gun-violence-in-america/ar-BBsabeJ?li=BBnbfcL
In Canton, Ohio, one of the most common complaints that police chief Bruce Lawver hears is about gunfire. Shots fired. That unnerving pop of a firearm being discharged.
Last year, at least 772 bullets were fired in one tiny part of Canton, a city of 73,000 people. That is more than two bullets every day.
Yet, either by luck or intent, relatively few of these projectiles hit anyone. Gunfire across the entire city of Canton resulted in eight homicides, 11 suicides and 25 non-fatal injuries in 2015, according to police statistics.
This is how gun violence is usually measured — in the cold calculation of deaths and injuries.
But that familiar yardstick misses a lot.
It does not account for all the times when a gun is fired in anger, fear or by accident and the bullet simply misses its mark. Yet whether a bullet kills or injures someone is an almost random outcome from a violent act. It is influenced by the shooter’s aim, if the bullet happens to strike vital organs and even how far a victim must travel to reach a hospital trauma center.
“It’s just not the whole picture,” said Jennifer Doleac, an assistant professor of public policy at the University of Virginia, who studies the connection between gunfire and crime. “There’s a lot more gun violence than what is reflected in homicide rates.”
The more telling number about gun violence might be “shots fired.” And now, thanks to broader adoption of new technologies, it is getting easier to show just how common gun violence is in America.
Last year, there were 165,531 separate gunshots recorded in 62 different urban municipalities nationwide, including places such as San Francisco, Washington, D.C., St. Louis and Canton, according to ShotSpotter, the company behind a technology that listens for gunfire's acoustic signature and reports it to authorities....
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/th...gun-violence-in-america/ar-BBsabeJ?li=BBnbfcL
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TECH & SCIENCE
SILICON VALLEY TARGETS SMART GUNS
BY GRANT BURNINGHAM ON 4/12/16 AT 6:40 AM
Brutus, the shop dog at Engage Armaments in Rockville, Maryland, sits next to some Armatrix iP1s, a smart gun his owner decided to not sell after being threatened with arson.
In the 2012 movie Skyfall, James Bond brandishes his trusty sidearm, but with a high-tech twist: There’s a sensor in the grip that reads palm prints so only he can fire it. The souped-up firearm saves the secret agent’s life, and in the real world, similar technology could do the same for thousands. Or so says Ron Conway, an avuncular Silicon Valley billionaire trying to disrupt the gun industry.
Speaking at the International Smart Gun Symposium in San Francisco in February, Conway exuded the cockiness of a man who invested early in Google, Airbnb and Twitter. “The gun companies have chosen to sit on their asses and not innovate,” he said. “Silicon Valley is coming to their rescue.”
Conway isn’t a gun owner, and for most of his life, he never gave much thought to firearms. But after Adam Lanza shot up an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012, killing 26, Conway created a foundation that has given $1 million to inventors. The goal: perfect user-authenticated firearms....
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/04/22/silicon-valley-targets-smart-guns-446523.html
SILICON VALLEY TARGETS SMART GUNS
BY GRANT BURNINGHAM ON 4/12/16 AT 6:40 AM
Brutus, the shop dog at Engage Armaments in Rockville, Maryland, sits next to some Armatrix iP1s, a smart gun his owner decided to not sell after being threatened with arson.
In the 2012 movie Skyfall, James Bond brandishes his trusty sidearm, but with a high-tech twist: There’s a sensor in the grip that reads palm prints so only he can fire it. The souped-up firearm saves the secret agent’s life, and in the real world, similar technology could do the same for thousands. Or so says Ron Conway, an avuncular Silicon Valley billionaire trying to disrupt the gun industry.
Speaking at the International Smart Gun Symposium in San Francisco in February, Conway exuded the cockiness of a man who invested early in Google, Airbnb and Twitter. “The gun companies have chosen to sit on their asses and not innovate,” he said. “Silicon Valley is coming to their rescue.”
Conway isn’t a gun owner, and for most of his life, he never gave much thought to firearms. But after Adam Lanza shot up an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012, killing 26, Conway created a foundation that has given $1 million to inventors. The goal: perfect user-authenticated firearms....
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/04/22/silicon-valley-targets-smart-guns-446523.html
Awesome. Forget about the whole discussion involving the government being able to turn off everyone's guns in such technology, or the fact that guns will still come across the border that are not smart, or that there are technology issues like batteries, rfid problems and the like that can arise etc.
What do we do about the 300 million guns already on the street?
Add to them? So that your children can complain about 500 million guns when they're older?
What does gun violence cost? It costs lives, lots of them. That's easy enough to see. This problem will never, never ever be solved until we address the real problem, and it ain't the gun itself. Blaming the gun is like an alcoholic blaming a bottle of vodka. A drug addict blaming the needle. Until the alcoholic/addict determines why they need to drug themselves just to get through the day, there is no solution in trying to prohibit access.
It's no different for gun violence. Why the need to kill? Address the real, deeper underlying causes for all this hate. Figure that out and you have a beginning towards a more healthy society. Until then, there will be no improvement.
It's no different for gun violence. Why the need to kill? Address the real, deeper underlying causes for all this hate. Figure that out and you have a beginning towards a more healthy society. Until then, there will be no improvement.
You'd be adding to them anyway with the addition of smart guns. All it would accomplish is to raise the street value of "dumb" guns, if I can use that term.
Yep. That's what I've been saying forever. But folks like Freddie and Nitro would rather forgive the individual and punish the inanimate object. Put laws in place that restrict those already following the law, ignore those who commit the majority of crimes.
How did prohibition work with alcohol when we tried to ban it?