What does a communist do In the midst of the disastrous obamacare rollout?

well stated. although I am not sure we had to end up here.
I think that has been a consequence of changing how Senators are elected. Plus Congress first taking too much power from the states and then ceding too much power to the executive branch, agencies, the Private Federal Reserve Bank and the courts through marbury vs. madison.

I think the federal spending has to be cut and the states have to take back their power.





Quote from TGregg:

SLFC=not spend like a mofo trying to stop certain things such as drugs, tobacco, alcohol, gay marriage, etc. Basically the idea that government is about enforcing "real" rights and not about trying to "improve" society by outlawing certain behaviors that do not infringe on the rights of another. Note, "real" rights are the same rights you would have by yourself on the proverbial deserted island. You'd have the right to peaceful assembly, freedom of speech and religion, etc. You would not have the right to free healthcare, a good job that earns a fair wage, a hot blonde, a big screen TV, a free cell phone and all the rest unless you earned it yourself.

There's a lot of grey areas though. Like pollution. Maybe it's not so great if a guy in a suburb builds an asbestos and asphalt plant along with the world's loudest and largest outdoor heavy metal concert stage.

Then there are certain things we've done that have a couple sides to them. Like outlawing smoking in most restaurants and bars. In general, I'm against government passing laws of that nature. Still, I certainly enjoy these places more. I suspect that eventually we would have arrived where we are, but the (unjust IMO) laws pushed us there faster.
 
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Heard this quote many times before. (How does that work? I can't see how those philosophies can realistically co-exist in the same body. Please explain.)

How can you be for "spend/overspend on social programs", yet "not overspend" as a Conservative?

(Personally, I'm a "Darwinist".)

Tsing Tao is one of a handful of members on this messageboard that actually means what he says.

I've heard Big Arrow make a similar claim. CPGroupman (and his other half dozen aliases) made the same claim. In fact, there are numerous liberals who would describe themselves similarly.

The difference is that Tsing is basically libertarian, whereas the others are simply confused libtards. When confronted with even the most basic set of proposals to reduce spending, cut waste and/or limit overreach, they go apeshit.

You are correct, however, that there aren't many politico's who would fit the above criteria...it's simply impossible to "payback" those who "contributed" to their re-election campaign while appeasing those who argue in favor of a sane approach to spending and largesse.
 
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Who is the leader of this Libertarian Party?

Why do you keep asking (stupid) questions, if you don't want replies?

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11-16-12 08:21 PM
I dont type for replies luke, I just like salting the wounds my friends inflict...
 
Quote from Lucrum:

Why do you keep asking (stupid) questions, if you don't want replies?

Then why do you keep replying?

and its not a stupid question, its part of my research to measure how many political orphans have been created by the likes of Boner and the GOP.Who knows, it may just be the perfect opportunity for a 3rd Party.

Will you vote for my new Libertarian Party . . . luke?
 
Quote from Scataphagos:

Heard this quote many times before. (How does that work? I can't see how those philosophies can realistically co-exist in the same body. Please explain.)

How can you be for "spend/overspend on social programs", yet "not overspend" as a Conservative?

(Personally, I'm a "Darwinist".)

It's actually quite easy. Being a social liberal doesn't mean you support welfare, food stamps and subsidized housing, or Obamacare, for example. It just means you are open to people doing whatever they want within the confines of their own property/house. A few examples of Libertarian positions (and my personal view attached) for explanation:

1. Pro gay marriage. People should be able to marry whoever or whatever they want, so long as it is in their own lives. But don't preach it and celebrate it in classrooms where my kids go to school.

2. Pro choice. While I am personally against abortion, I believe in everyone's rights to do whatever they want with their bodies. That means a woman who wants to abort their child can do so - until you legally define the fetus as a human, then it becomes a discussion on another's rights.

3. Legalization of drugs. Smoke whatever you want, drink whatever you want, and do it in your own home/property. Get behind the wheel of a car, etc, then you're subject to the law because you can hurt others. Wanna sit home and shoot heroin in your basement all day? Go for it. Legalize all drugs and tax the shit out of them.

and so on. All of these positions are social conservative positions. I do not prescribe to many, if any, conservative social positions.

None of these positions compromise my fiscal conservative policy of "get the government out of spending on any of it".

Feel free to ask me my position on anything at all. As long as you hold to the defining principle that people can do what they want to themselves, and the government stays out of everything except perhaps, national defense, etc (state governments have much larger responsibilities) then you're a Libertarian.
 
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