What Do You Want In A Trading Room

Quote from TraderZones:


Your viewpoint is surprisingly naive and does not reflect what SUBSCRIBERS, not "ME" want. It reflects what you think people want.

I respect many of your viewpoints, but you are thoroughly incorrect and do not understand what Joe Trader and his smallish account are hoping for and want from a signal service. You are guessing.

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I'm really not trying to get into an arguement with you here, and I'm starting to feel like I'm wasting him time. Let me say though that if all I provided was "what I thought customers wanted, not what they actually want" I would not have had a successful business. As it was I had a very successful business by providing clients EXACTLY what is it was that they wanted. Again as I have said you are free to go start your own site and then we can compare notes on what works and does not work, until then YOU MY FRIEND are the one who is simply guessing.
 
Quote from bthomas:

Please Help Us To Give You What You Want
Let your voice be heard. Thanks for the help.

Brandonf, this is from the first post in this thread. What is it you don't understand?

The OP wants to hear from prospective clients, not you. You are sneekingly off topic and hijacking this. I don't understand why you persist.

Please consider opening up a thread in another area entitled, "What a Vendor Should do to be Successful.
 
Quote from rolextrader:

Brandonf, this is from the first post in this thread. What is it you don't understand?

The OP wants to hear from prospective clients, not you. You are sneekingly off topic and hijacking this. I don't understand why you persist.

Please consider opening up a thread in another area entitled, "What a Vendor Should do to be Successful.

What you hear from people on ET and what actually converts revenue to your business are two entirely different things.
 
Quote from austinp:

<i>"Your viewpoint is surprisingly naive and does not reflect what SUBSCRIBERS, not "ME" want. It reflects what you think people want. I respect many of your viewpoints, but you are thoroughly incorrect and do not understand what Joe Trader and his smallish account are hoping for and want from a signal service. You are guessing."</i>

Well <b>rcan = zones = next alias to come,</b> you have professed for years that tech analysis doesn't work at all, trading is a losing game except for your red herring offer of an untested system for sale @ $250,000 USD

I'll waste two minutes here in response while waiting for the afternoon action to heat up. Joe Trader and his smallish account usually wants what does not exist. That is, a kindergarten simple, A-B-C approach to trading. Something that can be digested in days or hours and then applied to real-time markets for consistent profits right out of the gate. No learning curve required.

Anyone who promises such things will be deluged with subscribers... they are singing the song Joe T. wants to hear. Even though he doesn't believe it deep down, Joe T. will still get sucked in because he needs that false hope to be real.

Audited track records and real-time performance means nothing for room client retention. It can actually increase cancellations, in all reality. Joe T. inwardly hopes to replicate the room operator's trades almost verbatim. After all, he hopes for a kindergarten level approach used by experienced veterans in the first place. Once the room operator is plugging along profitably while he struggles to keep up, Joe T. is apt to cancel in dejection or frustration and move on elsewhere.

Joe T. then experiences the same exact thing at next room stop, and continues to repeat the churn process. It's the false expectations and desire for instant gratification which set up Joe T. for certain failure BEFORE he ever discovers the room service to begin with.

Brandonf knows exactly what he's talking about. You clearly don't. What a room client thinks he wants and what actually makes him stay are completely different things.
Austin, before you can have a client you have to get him through the door. After that, keeping him in the room will depend on what value he perceives he's getting for his monthly subscription.

Anyways, the purpose HERE is not to debate TraderZones or have Brandonf ramble on about what his experience AS A VENDOR was in 1999. The purpose is to let any interested parties answer the OP's question, PLAIN & SIMPLE.

The only thing this thread is missing to completely screw it up beyond recognition, is a visit from Mr. Chocalate Bar.
 
Quote from rolextrader:

Austin, before you can have a client you have to get him through the door. After that, keeping him in the room will depend on what value he perceives he's getting for his monthly subscription.

Anyways, the purpose HERE is not to debate TraderZones or have Brandonf ramble on about what his experience AS A VENDOR was in 1999. The purpose is to let any interested parties answer the OP's question, PLAIN & SIMPLE.

The only thing this thread is missing to completely screw it up beyond recognition, is a visit from Mr. Chocalate Bar.

Actually my experiance as a vendor lasted until 2005 :)
 
Quote from Brandonf:

What you hear from people on ET and what actually converts revenue to your business are two entirely different things.

So, that's not what the OP wants to hear, thank you very much. Go send him a PM and tell him everything about your experience, but try to stay on topic. Is that asking too much?
 
Quote from rolextrader:

So, that's not what the OP wants to hear, thank you very much. Go send him a PM and tell him everything about your experience, but try to stay on topic. Is that asking too much?

No, it wouldnt be. All i planned on doing was making ONE SINGLE post, then I have people attacking me and telling me I dont know what I'm talking about. Had that not occured I'd have one single post on here. But you guys trying to tell me what clients really want, and what will really convert them is like me trying to tell Sam Walton how to run a god damn department store because I used to be the assitant manager at Casey's when I was 17. Henry Ford used to say that if the customer was always right he'd have made Buggy's and not cars, and its the same sort of thing here on a much smaller and less important scale. In any event, if I'm not attacked here anymore and my knowledge on a subject that you guys clearly have none on and I do have at least a little is no longer called into question I dont have anything else to say. I had one meaningful post and the rest have been defending myself.
 
Quote from Brandonf:

Actually my experiance as a vendor lasted until 2005 :)
Congratulations. seriously, I think you're a smart man, and Im scratching my head wondering what you're doing here other than gratifying your ego. Please stop.
 
Quote from Brandonf:

No, it wouldnt be. All i planned on doing was making ONE SINGLE post, then I have people attacking me and telling me I dont know what I'm talking about. Had that not occured I'd have one single post on here. But you guys trying to tell me what clients really want, and what will really convert them is like me trying to tell Sam Walton how to run a god damn department store because I used to be the assitant manager at Casey's when I was 17.

The only person who attacked you was TradeZones and that is his stock-in-trade. At any rate, let the traders who are interested come here and SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

I am finished with this dialogue, although I reserve the right to post if the OP replies to those who told him what they want.

FMOC coming up and I need to get ready.
 
Quote from austinp:

you have professed for years that tech analysis doesn't work at all

It doesn't. And when you post convincing proof to the opposite, then your response will mean something more than squat. Unless of course, you intend to do so NOW.

I'll waste two minutes here in response while waiting for the afternoon action to heat up. Joe Trader and his smallish account usually wants what does not exist. That is, a kindergarten simple, A-B-C approach to trading. Something that can be digested in days or hours and then applied to real-time markets for consistent profits right out of the gate. No learning curve required.

Anyone who promises such things will be deluged with subscribers... they are singing the song Joe T. wants to hear. Even though he doesn't believe it deep down, Joe T. will still get sucked in because he needs that false hope to be real.

noise and opinion

Audited track records and real-time performance means nothing for room client retention. It can actually increase cancellations, in all reality. Joe T. inwardly hopes to replicate the room operator's trades almost verbatim. After all, he hopes for a kindergarten level approach used by experienced veterans in the first place. Once the room operator is plugging along profitably while he struggles to keep up, Joe T. is apt to cancel in dejection or frustration and move on elsewhere.

Well I am SO GLAD you are an expert in this subject. Like Brandon, you may:

POST YOUR PROOF THAT POTENTIAL SUBSCRIBERS DON'T WANT AUDITED TRACK RECORDS BELOW. Otherwise, STFU.


Joe T. then experiences the same exact thing at next room stop, and continues to repeat the churn process. It's the false expectations and desire for instant gratification which set up Joe T. for certain failure BEFORE he ever discovers the room service to begin with.

Brandonf knows exactly what he's talking about. You clearly don't.

I AM SO GLAD YOU ARE SUCH AN EXPERT AND ARE WILLING TO POST CONVINCING PROOF THAT SUBSCRIBERS DO NOT WANT AUDITED RESULTS.

MY PROOF STARTS WITH THE PURESCHTICK THREADS, WHERE MANY REQUEST AUDITED RESULTS.

Again, if you are just going to babble and not demonstrate what you say is true, STFU.

And you are correct. Your post was a waste of two minutes.
 
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