What do you think about the '9/11 Truth' movement?

[Hello]

You just opened a can of worms which AMSTW will continue on for days on end.

Here is how it works for me. Basically logic prevails.

What i mean is that i will always assume the most logical assumption is the correct one. For example, I am more inclined to believe engineers than i am to believe Conspiracy theorists who claim WTC7 was brought down by the government. In order for you to believe guys like AMSTW you would have to believe that thousands of people were in on a conspiracy but none of it ever got leaked, that is crazy in my opinion, especially given the ineptitude of our government.

I hate the government, but i dont believe they are capable of hiding a crime of that magnitude.

They more than likely hid their own ineptitude, but they did not go out and inteintionally commit a crime, if anything we should be pissed off about how stupid they are.

Quote from Rearden Metal:



Is the official story really that hard to believe?

http://www.911myths.com/index.html

I really don't see how Alex Jones can be so positive it was an inside job. Jones is right about some things, but IMO he goes way too far with his opinions on 9/11.

 

[AMT4SWA]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

OK, Jones foreshadowing 9/11 a few months in advance is disturbing, and I don't just dismiss it offhand... but you know that's not the exact same thing as <b>proof</b>.

Without getting into any long-ass technical discussions about physics and the melting point of steel and such (because those things never interest me as I have no way of understanding the matter diligently enough to know which expert to believe), what are your three best 'proofs' that 9/11 was an inside job?

Simple......review ANY of the data/videos I have provided here (and there is a TON more......I know, been researching this for 10 years now). The Citizen Investigation Team "PentaCON" video is very good as is Jesse Ventura's recent TruTV piece (simple to follow and basic details).

If you really dig deep into additional info, you will find out about Atta's informant contacts just prior to 9/11 and military training at Maxwell AFB (also, about Atta's GOVT ISSUED credit card used just days before 9/11). Also, how the PentaCON attack hijacker was not even able to control small Cessna aircraft properly, etc, etc, etc. Every subset of every component of 9/11 is so riddled with evidence of a PLANNED false flag event. It still SHOCKS me how easy it was to CON so many into believing such an obviously FALSE official story......I did not realize how ASLEEP amerika had become!

:eek:

 

[Rearden Metal]

Quote from AMT4SWA:

Every subset of every component of 9/11 is so riddled with evidence of a PLANNED false flag event. It still SHOCKS me how easy it was to CON so many into believing such an obviously FALSE official story......I did not realize how ASLEEP amerika had become!

:eek:

Well, keep in mind what believing your side entails: In order to believe Jones, I have to therefore believe that my own country has somehow already been taken over by a bunch of murderous Nazis. That's not something <b>anyone</b> ever wants to believe, whether it's actually true or not.

 

[AMT4SWA]

Quote from Hello:

I hate the government, but i dont believe they are capable of hiding a crime of that magnitude.

SIMPLE question........


Have you ever been "in the field" serving your govt and have direct KNOWLEDGE of the heinous fully "unconstitutional" activities they will ORDER you to do???

How many here at ET have real "in the field" experience dealing with covert operations, "directed" psy ops campaign activities, military aviation, commercial airline aviation?

Do you REALLY know what CANCER is until you have cancer YOURSELF???

My opinion is, MOST here at ET don't have a FRICKING clue how NASTY the reality really is.......but, one day you will get to find out FIRST HAND! It is actually sad how that is exactly what will need to happen for MANY to realize they have NO HEDGE in place.

 

[pspr]

Sorry to disappoint but it is all bunk and I even believe in flying saucers and aliens.

 

[Range Rover]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

OK, Jones foreshadowing 9/11 a few months in advance is

He did not predict 9-11.He predicted a terrorist attack,said Bin Laden would be blamed

Where would he get the idea there would be a terror attack and Bin Laden would be blamed...

The 1992 Attack on the Gold Mihor Hotel in Yemen
The 1993 Attack on the World Trade Centers
A plot to blow up airliners over the pacific in 1993
The bombing at a U.S. military facility in Riyadh
The 1996 Khobar Towers Bombing
The 1998 Embassy Bombings
A plot to destroy the USS Sullivans
The 2000 bombing of the USS Cole
The world knew Bin laden was planning more attacks against the US

 

[AMT4SWA]

Quote from Rearden Metal:

Well, keep in mind what believing your side entails: In order to believe Jones, I have to therefore believe that my own country has somehow already been taken over by a bunch of murderous Nazis. That's not something <b>anyone</b> ever wants to believe, whether it's actually true or not.

It is not your own country as a whole....it is embedded factions (called "handlers") that are directed from multi-national wealth entities. These "handlers" manipulate your elected officials into incremental mission creep of THEIR control. "Handlers" directing "operators" (those who actually conduct the in field operations) FREQUENTLY stage EVENTS to gain a pre-determined RESULT.

BTW, China is actually the very last significant power on earth trying to fight off these globalist wealth entities strategic moves. China is maneuvering as we speak to play the grand ultimatum game very soon......they see what has been allowed to take place these past 10 years and they are rushing to go "all in" very soon. China DOES NOT want to be controlled by old western european wealth entities and their central banks. They see the US now as a "controlled" global mercenary force conducting "Globalist lead" operations throughout the world for final positioning (ever since just before 9/11 when China signed $800 Billion dollar oil deal with Iran.......Globalist wealth entities DO NOT want China to have that deal fulfilled).

 

[Hello]

I am done, logic does not work with you, so there is no point in arguing.

Quote from AMT4SWA:

SIMPLE question........


Have you ever been "in the field" serving your govt and have direct KNOWLEDGE of the heinous fully "unconstitutional" activities they will ORDER you to do???

How many here at ET have real "in the field" experience dealing with covert operations, "directed" psy ops campaign activities, military aviation, commercial airline aviation?

Do you REALLY know what CANCER is until you have cancer YOURSELF???

My opinion is, MOST here at ET don't have a FRICKING clue how NASTY the reality really is.......but, one day you will get to find out FIRST HAND! It is actually sad how that is exactly what will need to happen for MANY to realize they have NO HEDGE in place.

 

[AMT4SWA]

Quote from Hello:

I am done, logic does not work with you, so there is no point in arguing.

That is OK...I am not fighting with you and I KNOW the REALITY is WAY TOO HARD for many to handle. :eek:

 

[AMT4SWA]

Quote from Range Rover:

He did not predict 9-11.He predicted a terrorist attack,said Bin Laden would be blamed

Where would he get the idea there would be a terror attack and Bin Laden would be blamed...

The 1992 Attack on the Gold Mihor Hotel in Yemen
The 1993 Attack on the World Trade Centers
A plot to blow up airliners over the pacific in 1993
The bombing at a U.S. military facility in Riyadh
The 1996 Khobar Towers Bombing
The 1998 Embassy Bombings
A plot to destroy the USS Sullivans
The 2000 bombing of the USS Cole
The world knew Bin laden was planning more attacks against the US

Sure pal....those various single op "one offs" sure lead to BOX CUTTERS taking out the whole american air defense........LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: