What do you guys think of Seminars for Starters?

www.todaytrader.com

those guys actually make money, show their pendings, execs, and open positions....you actually see their screen in real time, its fairly unique.

not my style, not actually a fan of how they trade, but if you want to look over someones shoulder instead of paying 10k for some retarded seminar by some washed out legend, or get scammed into some bs training program, these guys would serve you well.

Quote from traderbiker:

Hey Guys,

my first post here for my new endeavor, little bit longer

i decided to leave my daily job last year and wanted to take one year sabbatical, and to see how this year develops. i had the plan to try to become a poker pro and to get into trading (swing trading, account size starting with 50kusd increase to 100kusd afterwards). in the meanwhile i earn good money by playing poker, so it's time to start to develop some trading skills - while i move to australia for winter because europe is realy unpleasant during that time.

i see becoming a trader with a realistic viewpoint, i know i do not have a clue, i need time to develop skills, and loosing is part of the game - you need to know when to hold em end when to fold em :D

having said that, i have read already several books: tarp - trade your way to financial freedom, schwager - market wizards, schwager on futures, nilson - candlestick course, and currently neil - how to make money in stocks. i subscribed to various websites, not because i dont want to develop my own system, but to see how other people think and analyse markets (eg stockbandit).

tough i am still struggeling not really knowing how 2 proceed., seems the first steps are really the most difficult ones. i am thinking about attending a trading course, but i am not sure if those courses are worth their money, what do you think about it?

i had put my eyes especially on the swing trading academy by tradingmarkets/larry connors. the content seemed quite helpful, basics, some systems, and 4 weeks of live trading. i do NOT expect to be a master trader afterward, nor that the presented systems will make me millionaire next year. i expect that i will know (=starting know how, will develop) how to approach markets, will see how some systems are built up so i can develop own ones, and so on.

most probable, most information is out there somewhere, but it's also a question of time frame, when such a course speeds up my learning curve, i am willing to invest - its just a basic investement calculation.

what do you guys think, yes/no? other suggestions?

your help is very much appreciated.
 
Quote from punter:

www.todaytrader.com

those guys actually make money, show their pendings, execs, and open positions....you actually see their screen in real time, its fairly unique.



How do you know they make money, I don't find any track record ?

a 3 day trial track record doesn't qualify,BTW.
 
There must be some sort'uv proof and if there isn't...don't bother unless a minimum of two from any of the below occurs:

* Seminar education material etched in stone as in a book or down-loadable files...real-trading videos a plus. However, it's ok but alone is not good enough.

* Real-time trade posting with archive log...it's ok but alone is not good enough.

* Broker statements (real money) of the teacher or students that say it works...it's ok but alone is not good enough. Those students that continue defending the seminar course without posting proof of their own success...their shills or the teacher hiding behind an anonymous user name to pretend to be a satisfied student.

* Live trading seminars up on a big screen with a real money trading account are the best but I've only heard about a few of these and it ain't cheap (several thousand dollars or more).

Note: Avoid online seminars unless it comes with a minimum of two from the above.

Also, seminar is an extension of mentoring in my opinion. Therefore, I think there should be a screening process used by the teacher to ensure that students are qualified to take the seminar (e.g. using the same or similar trading tools at the teacher) because most traders don't have the critical pieces of the puzzle put together prior to their very first trade.

Mark
 
Quote from traderbiker:

Hey Guys,

my first post here for my new endeavor, little bit longer

i decided to leave my daily job last year and wanted to take one year sabbatical, and to see how this year develops. i had the plan to try to become a poker pro and to get into trading (swing trading, account size starting with 50kusd increase to 100kusd afterwards). in the meanwhile i earn good money by playing poker, so it's time to start to develop some trading skills - while i move to australia for winter because europe is realy unpleasant during that time.

i see becoming a trader with a realistic viewpoint, i know i do not have a clue, i need time to develop skills, and loosing is part of the game - you need to know when to hold em end when to fold em :D

having said that, i have read already several books: tarp - trade your way to financial freedom, schwager - market wizards, schwager on futures, nilson - candlestick course, and currently neil - how to make money in stocks. i subscribed to various websites, not because i dont want to develop my own system, but to see how other people think and analyse markets (eg stockbandit).

tough i am still struggeling not really knowing how 2 proceed., seems the first steps are really the most difficult ones. i am thinking about attending a trading course, but i am not sure if those courses are worth their money, what do you think about it?

i had put my eyes especially on the swing trading academy by tradingmarkets/larry connors. the content seemed quite helpful, basics, some systems, and 4 weeks of live trading. i do NOT expect to be a master trader afterward, nor that the presented systems will make me millionaire next year. i expect that i will know (=starting know how, will develop) how to approach markets, will see how some systems are built up so i can develop own ones, and so on.

most probable, most information is out there somewhere, but it's also a question of time frame, when such a course speeds up my learning curve, i am willing to invest - its just a basic investement calculation.

what do you guys think, yes/no? other suggestions?

your help is very much appreciated.




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Quote from punter:

www.todaytrader.com

those guys actually make money, show their pendings, execs, and open positions....you actually see their screen in real time, its fairly unique.

not my style, not actually a fan of how they trade, but if you want to look over someones shoulder instead of paying 10k for some retarded seminar by some washed out legend, or get scammed into some bs training program, these guys would serve you well.

That was actually one of the main ones I had in mind. I watched their videos for a year when I first began, along with purchasing StockVision partly for the great chat room there. TodayTrader also has a lot of free content out there as well.
 
Quote from thunderbolttr:

That was actually one of the main ones I had in mind. I watched their videos for a year when I first began, along with purchasing StockVision partly for the great chat room there. TodayTrader also has a lot of free content out there as well.

i had them scanned already and they have quite a big amount of free vids also on youtube, also for 40bucks (which is an easy investment) for one month i can try out the monthly swing service and see what stocks they provide (maybe find out why) and they have a weekly webinar reviewing the market and action.

same applies btw. for thestockbandit; its for 100bucks a month, but he reviews the market daily (15min vid) and also a picklist daily.

btw. both have a trading record on their homepage.

i think i can get at least some out of these offerings, seeing the theorie applied to the market by more experienced people will surely give me some kind of better understanding. nevertheless, its just to develop my own understanding and not follow them blindly.

i also tried mr.swing, but for me that was just to much info there. i also joined the free trial at pristine, and joined a free webinar (which was basically a selling pitch) and took part in their online trading room (tptm), more confusing than helping currently.
 
Quote from Peternam:

Where on the website of TD did you find this link ?

service, and then directly below "swing trading service" there is the link, tough slightly hidden (in blue) swing trading results for 2010
 
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