Quote from Range Rover:
do you know that it took Reagan longer then 2 years to fix Carters economy and that unemployment reached 10.8 % under tax cut king Reagan ?
Quote from Trader666:
Drop the desperate, phony comparisons between the community organizer and Reagan. Obama's not even worthy of being mentioned in the same sentence. Obama is more like the worst of Jimmy Carter + the worst of Herbert Hoover + (I can't think of a past president who was such a groveling, bowing apologist).

Quote from Range Rover:
but I do like the fact that the stock market is doing better
Quote from Range Rover:
Bush is more comparable to Carter.Like Carter he left is successor 8 + % unemployment
Quote from Free Thinker:
speaking of logic. what were tax rates compared to now during the booming 90s?
we boomed in the 90s because we had ideas. the computer and internet era buildout was an era of growth.
we have no new ideas now. we have a fully mature economy. we dont need growth in housing or retail or anything else above the rate of population growth. how many more malls does america need?
business senses this. that is why business refuses to hire. it has almost nothing to do with corporate taxes.
Quote from Free Thinker:
speaking of logic. what were tax rates compared to now during the booming 90s?
we boomed in the 90s because we had ideas. the computer and internet era buildout was an era of growth.
we have no new ideas now. we have a fully mature economy. we dont need growth in housing or retail or anything else above the rate of population growth. how many more malls does america need?
business senses this. that is why business refuses to hire. it has almost nothing to do with corporate taxes.
we lived through years of the republican idea that we can allow business to send manufacturing overseas and we will just be the middle man using our educated workforce to make money off the finance industry. something happened along the way. the workforce fell behind on education and the rest of the world figured out they dont want us as middleman. now the manufacturing base is gone and our workforce has priced itself out of the world wide labor market. we are desperatly trying to destroy the dollar in a mad rush the gain competitive advantage but it isnt working because everyone wants to be an export economy so they just match our devaluations and it becomes a mad race to the bottom. we are in a pickle that has no easy solution.