Quote from vhehn:
much of the calvinists self loathing and ideas that all men are worthless and depraved like dirty rags in gods eyes comes from the writings of paul. paul was a mentally unstable person who hijacked jesus message and changed it to his own message. this article explains why paul was such a self loathing person. it is unfortunate that the men who made up and voted on the bible based so much of it on pauls writings.
Good point. And interesting free-thinking from the Episcopal bishop. It does indeed appear that Paul was unusual. I mean, one day he is chasing down christians to have them stoned, the next day he's crashing the apostles party (actually about two years passed from the time he was knocked blind off his high horse by Jesus).
And if the authorities in charge when the new testament was being canonized wanted to create an imbalance in favor amassing power for themselves, certainly they would lean heavily on Paul. There is a noticeable absence of writings from the other major players of the day.
It should also be noted that Paul was traveling and preaching with Barnabas as some kind of duo...until some kind of disagreement compelled them to part ways, not very amicably. This is extremely significant, imo. You would think there would be complete unity in message so early in the game...but NO. I wouldn't doubt that Barnabas thought Paul to be a bit extreme, and compromising the message due to his passion.
In the Seth library as channeled by Jane Roberts in the 70s, Seth mentions that apostle Paul was not satisfied with his performance, and would reincarnate. He mentioned that Paul regretted embellishing the message in such a way that it would survive in the current political environment...only to compromise it in hindsight. Hindsight tells us he was very successful with that endeavor...his writings being first choice among the ABOVE GROUND church, vs the UNDERGROUND church (literally assembling in the catacombs under Rome to avoid persecution).
It seems to me that it will be impossible for anyone to understand Paul, until they have the entire message in it's purest form...coming from the major players.
I hang with an interesting crowd, and it came to my attention over the weekend that one of the players in the group is the reincarnated Paul. Considering the source of this info (not him)...and having had a spirited conversation with him about some deep issues, I tend to agree it is a distinct possibility...including also the signs of the times.
Perhaps I could get him to join this debate. Would you like the apostle Paul to join this thread?
However, he, like other reincarnated major players, do not introduce themselves as, or advertise their past lives. In fact it is somewhat avoided and for good reason. Humility prevents this, memory prevents this, and for other reasons, it's not necessarily a productive issue regarding what is important NOW. They, as all of us who are consciously attempting to master the Master's message, consider NOW to be the moment of power, putting the past into it's proper perspective.
I want to respect his privacy, so I won't disclose everything discussed. But I will reveal that he is a major player, literally, a master of the keyboards, unlike you have ever heard before. He can spontaneously compose masterpieces that imo, exceed the contributions of Bach and Beethoven.
He has a sharp, quick mind. He is able to extract the archetypal messages of truth from science fiction books and movies, and expound on how they relate to universal truths.
I can also say that he is deeply passionate about understanding the causative factors leading to mankinds predicaments. Just like in the book of Acts, when he gets talking, the hours can fly by, and pretty soon it's midnight and he's still on fire. But in a crowd, he has chosen not to speak or teach, except through his fingers. He is mastering the tongue and humility.
True enough, our words mirror what's going on inside of us, and apostle Pauls words probably tell us more about Paul than Paul tells us about the gospel. Those areas that have not been mastered will be revealed as much as those that have been mastered.
I would suggest that the issue is/was not about gay. The issue goes back to the one afflicting mankind as a primal cause: the fragmentation of consciousness due to a "denial of will". By that I mean that mankind has set his mind as master over his heart...which is the feminine. Jesus' mission was about reestablishing the proper order between mind as servant, and the heart as master. On another level, this is about a more perfect integration of the divine feminine with the divine masculine within our being. To the degree that the 'goddess' has been denied, and mankind has denied his Heart in favor of his Mind....mankind suffers untold pain and suffering. Actually, it IS TOLD everyday in newspaper headlines.
I believe apostle Paul's issues were about not having yet mastered re-integration of the male/female union of our being...as it is perfected in well, the Master! The apostle Paul, imo, was still struggling to regain the proper balance, having previously so deeply denied the Heart, and all of it's magic, in favor of the mind. The result was a church that also struggles with the same issue, mostly denying the goddess, the heart, and the feminine, in favor of masculine minds... and the minds tendency to snatch control over understanding. You will also find a mind-centric church to be highly polarized...most obviously displayed with an obsessive preoccupation with who is included, and who is excluded from the church!
This goes back to the original sin: denial of love...that we ARE love. As our love is contained in our heart, you can see the impending doom overshadowing male/female relationships...not to mention all other relationships. But at certain extremes, a man will find himself single until he has come to terms with his own being as both male and female, with the heart in command.
I might suggest, that the reincarnated Paul is mastering this issue first of all by creating music with his heart in command, and his mind perfectly assisting. In this order, he creates music that is exquisitely beautiful. I can say that he is able to evoke tears in just a few measures...at least for me! He is able to create a musical portrait of the soul...of an individual or of a group. When he hits certain chords...oh my God!
JohnnyK
