Thanks for the threads, but I guess the fundamental quandary or question is this: Are prop firms simply stock traders and this the obsession with 4 versus 15 or whatever times intraday margin is only about stocks. I mean if you trade futures or Forex, even retail, you have margin out the Wazoo built-in. So, bottom line: If you have no-stock trading interests, or they are a small part of your trading, prop shops prima facie are not the place to be. True?