What do Hillary supporters think they are voting for?

The girl that is making the allegations against Trump is allegedly one of the convicted pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein's girls. The house your refer to where the incident allegedly took place was Jeffrey Epstein's house. Epstein supposedly kept a stable of underage sex slaves. I think the night in question was when Trump was at a dinner party to honor Bill Clinton at Epstein's house.

Epstein was closely associated with Bill Clinton for years. According to some reports, Clinton was on the Lolita Express, Jeffrey Epstein's private jet, over 20 times. Also, Clinton visited Epstein's private Caribbean island several times. Why was Bill Clinton hanging out with Epstein, a convicted pedophile, for so many years? What did he do on the island?

Also, Epstein would secretly video tape guest at his houses and on the island to use as blackmail later. Does Epstein have a video of Billy?

According to flight logs mentioned in the below article, Clinton flew on the Lolita Express 26 times.

Why do you think that the lawsuit against Trump isn't getting any MSM attention?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/1...ders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html

According to this article, Clinton visited the island 12 times.

http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/why-was-bill-clinton-at-child-molesters-private-island-12-times/

I just skimmed through the below article but looks like it can get you abreast of the situation.

http://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-se...xposed-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein/

Here is a more detailed article.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/10/jeffrey-epstein-decade-scandal-prince-andrew
 
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Even Dershowitz, the attorney that represented Epstein in the court case, has gotten caught up in allegations.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/03/alan-dershowitz-sexual-assault_n_6410380.html

Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz on Friday dismissed as “a complete and total lie” allegations of sexual assault levied by a woman who claims she was kept as a sex slave by billionaire investor Jeffrey Epstein.

“I was never anywhere near her, with her, under any circumstances,” Dershowitz said in a voicemail left with Laura Goldman, a HuffPost blogger and freelancer for ABC and Metro International.

Attorneys for the woman, who is identified in federal court documents as Jane Doe #3, charged that Epstein forced her “to have sexual relations with Dershowitz on numerous occasions while she was a minor, not only in Florida but also on private planes, in New York, New Mexico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands.” The woman also made allegations against Britain’s Prince Andrew, British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell and French model scout Jean Luc Brunel.
 
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/breaking-sex-slave-makes-disturbing-accusations-bill-clinton/

Former President Bill Clinton took a romantic jaunt in 2002 to convicted pedophile pal Jeffrey Epstein’s “orgy island” with “two young girls” from New York, according to a shocking new interview.

Virginia Roberts, who’s accused Epstein of turning her into a “sex slave” at age 17 and forcing her to sleep with his powerful friends, claimed Clinton stayed in one of the many villas on Epstein’s US Virgin Islands estate — where group sex was a “regular occurrence.”

“I remember asking Jeffrey, ‘What’s Bill Clinton doing here?’ kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said, ‘Well, he owes me a favor,’ ” Roberts told her lawyers in a 2011 interview obtained by RadarOnline.com. “He never told me what favors they were.”

Bubba was accompanied by two of Epstein’s regular girlfriends and “two young girls that I could identify,” Roberts claimed.

“I never really knew them well anyways. It was just two girls from New York,” she said.
 
Seriously correct. 200 K does not go far enough in San Diego if you have a recent mortgage in a good school district after fed state local insurance property taxes and health insurance.


WeToddDid2 said:
That is what really annoys me about federal taxes. The definition of middle class or upper class should be relative to where someone lives.

A family of 4 making $200,000 in Dallas, St. Louis or any small town in the middle of the country is doing pretty well. That puts the family in middle to upper middle class.

A family of 4 making $200,000 in San Francisco, LA or New York is struggling to make ends meet. A family in those areas is barely in the lower middle class. They wouldn't even be able to afford a mortgage payment in many areas in San Francisco.
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There are millions who live in and around Manhattan who earn less than 200k with kids and live a comfortable middle class life style. Same in San Francisco. Of course you can't send your kids to the most expensive private schools and afford a penthouse. But 200k puts you at a pretty sweet spot in the US, including large cities on either coast.

The secret of having it all is believing you already do.



WeToddDid2 said:
That is what really annoys me about federal taxes. The definition of middle class or upper class should be relative to where someone lives.

A family of 4 making $200,000 in Dallas, St. Louis or any small town in the middle of the country is doing pretty well. That puts the family in middle to upper middle class.

A family of 4 making $200,000 in San Francisco, LA or New York is struggling to make ends meet. A family in those areas is barely in the lower middle class. They wouldn't even be able to afford a mortgage payment in many areas in San Francisco.
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Lol, you gotta be kidding me. You want me to list the best school districts in San Diego and dig up the average rent one would pay in those neighborhoods, which about equates mortgage payments? Even a payment of around 3k or 4k a month to either pay rent or mortgage, which by the way rents/buys you an incredibly gorgeous home in SD, can be afforded with a 200k salary. What the heck are you talking about?

And what do you mean with recent mortgage? Mortgage rates are/were as low as they can get. The trend is up not down.

jem said:
Seriously correct. 200 K does not go far enough in San Diego if you have a recent mortgage in a good school district after fed state local insurance property taxes and health insurance.
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WeToddDid2 said:
I think the night in question was when Trump was at a dinner party to honor Bill Clinton at Epstein's house.
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There was no mention of that in either of the two filings I read. Nor did I read anything about being held as a sex slave, and the filings I read were from girls who were much younger than 17 at the time of the alleged incidents. According to the filings there were multiple incidents involving both Epstein and Trump, but there was no mention of any other adult male. I only read two of the filings. According to the filings, a key witness was an employee of Mr. Epstein at the time these incidents are alleged to have occurred. My source is what appears to be the actual filings with the court. I think the most reliable information is in the sworn statements contained in the filings because if substantially false statements are knowingly made, there can be very serious consequences, whereas almost anything can appear on the web, and does.
 
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piezoe said:
There was no mention of that in either of the two filings I read. Nor did I read anything about being held as a sex slave, and the filings I read were from girls who were much younger than 17 at the time of the alleged incidents. According to the filings there were multiple incidents involving both Epstein and Trump, but there was no mention of any other adult male. I only read two of the filings. According to the filings, a key witness was an employee of Mr. Epstein at the time these incidents are alleged to have occurred. My source is what appears to be the actual filings with the court. I think the most reliable information is in the sworn statements contained in the filings because if substantially false statements are knowingly made, there can be very serious consequences, whereas almost anything can appear on the web, and does.
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Do I have to hold your hand for everything?

This is not the first lawsuit regarding underage girls at Epstein's residences.

Epstein settled a previous one in Florida.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#cite_note-lewis-48
"Epstein has so far made 17 out-of-court settlements, and some cases are ongoing."
 
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