What Democrats are REALLY about

Quote from cgroupman:

Too bad, really. I think you and I do share a lot of middle ground. I really don't try to come off as any type of 'superior' person, just myself. There are many like me, who are civil and conservative fiscally, socially more liberal. I think that's a good thing overall. There is so much hypocrisy, on both sides, maybe that's why I feel more compelled to find that common ground.

Maybe someone will post this up for you. I really don't understand the ignore thing, seems a little weird for a discussion board.

The way we all grow is by listening to the other side, and the middle. That's why I watch all the channels, tape what I need to, just to stay informed. If I never watched Fox or MSNBC, both can be a little disturbing at times, then I wouldn't feel well enough informed to discuss topics.

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He really makes himself look pathetic with the ignore thing. I picture him with his hands over his ears going " lalalalallalalacan't hear you!" But 377, it's time to take a bath! "No no no I won't take a bath.... I not dirty!" and then he runs crying into his room with his big flags and fast cars and huge un-washed ego.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

I reached my limit with him this evening.

I really tried hard to like cgroupman. He has a lot of admirable characteristics and he and I have some commonality in our backgrounds. I've oscillated between like and dislike about half a dozen times but there is something that I just no longer abide and I'm having trouble describing it. It isn't hypocrisy it is the posts that suggest he is above all of the bickering because he is just so much more mature than the rest of us. I can't remember which thread but he was saying something about talking with moderators and they were telling him that P&R was about 8-10 people who just learned to use profane language. It was the last straw, at least for me. The only thing I've been able to come up with for a descriptor is "fence riding". He plays both sides against each other while cultivating an air of superiority.

Had to put him on ignore. I wasn't going to mention it but you seem to have developed a similar outlook so I just wanted you to know you aren't the only one.
You may be right. He seems thoughtful in one post then the next he 1) draws conclusions that aren't there and 2) make statements that are nothing more than behind the back attacks on other posters. Rarely does he provide any proof or reference for his statements.

I don't have much respect for people who have a "holier than thou" attitude because they were an army grunt at some time in their lives. Although I've always had a lot of respect for those in the military, I have no respect for those who get out and want to beat their chests at every chance they get. They become the lowest form of citizen.

You just can't trust or believe what he says. His posts become almost schizophrenic just right out of the blue. I may take your advice since I don't find such responses entertaining or worthwhile reading.
 
Quote from pspr:

You may be right. He seems thoughtful in one post then the next he 1) draws conclusions that aren't there and 2) make statements that are nothing more than behind the back attacks on other posters. Rarely does he provide any proof or reference for his statements.

I don't have much respect for people who have a "holier than thou" attitude because they were an army grunt at some time in their lives. Although I've always had a lot of respect for those in the military, I have no respect for those who get out and want to beat their chests at every chance they get. They become the lowest form of citizen.

You just can't trust or believe what he says. His posts become almost schizophrenic just right out of the blue. I may take your advice since I don't find such responses entertaining or worthwhile reading.

Hold on, I'm not advising you to ignore him, just relating that I am ignoring him. I sort of just wanted you to know that you weren't the only one getting pissed off.

It wasn't just the holier-than-thou thing. He is actively playing each side against the other, fomenting strife probably for his own entertainment.

I've also been mulling his statement about some other group he is active with whos individual members have 100 million dollars net worth or more each implying, I think, that he has enormous personal wealth. More and more I find I simply don't believe that. If I had millions upon millions of dollars I'm sure I would be into all kinds of obscure hobbies and activities and wouldn't likely be reading and posting in P&R. It was also a sideways put down to our membership since most of us are probably firmly middle class.

I'm not meaning to insult cgroupman but just no longer wish to read his posts.
 
Quote from pspr:

You may be right. He seems thoughtful in one post then the next he 1) draws conclusions that aren't there and 2) make statements that are nothing more than behind the back attacks on other posters. Rarely does he provide any proof or reference for his statements.

I don't have much respect for people who have a "holier than thou" attitude because they were an army grunt at some time in their lives. Although I've always had a lot of respect for those in the military, I have no respect for those who get out and want to beat their chests at every chance they get. They become the lowest form of citizen.

You just can't trust or believe what he says. His posts become almost schizophrenic just right out of the blue. I may take your advice since I don't find such responses entertaining or worthwhile reading.

Well, I hope you can read this. No, not an army grunt, I was in S2 for a few years, then reserves. And I rarely talk about it. And, as far as 'holier than thou' - doubtful since I don't ever try to preach. I guess you could gather something like that because I prefer to discuss, even debate, instead of just call each other names. And, most understand that, I'm still not sure about the name calling and all that, but I'm sure I'll figure it out someday.

Schizo, nah, just try to see things from both sides. Something I learned at university. Became kind of second nature.

I will take the suggestion that I should post more references, and thank you for that. I'm not great with the image files and all that stuff, but getting better.


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Quote from 377OHMS:

Hold on, I'm not advising you to ignore him, just relating that I am ignoring him. I sort of just wanted you to know that you weren't the only one getting pissed off.

It wasn't just the holier-than-thou thing. He is actively playing each side against the other, fomenting strife probably for his own entertainment.

I've also been mulling his statement about some other group he is active with whos individual members have 100 million dollars net worth or more each implying, I think, that he has enormous personal wealth. More and more I find I simply don't believe that. If I had millions upon millions of dollars I'm sure I would be into all kinds of obscure hobbies and activities and wouldn't likely be reading and posting in P&R. It was also a sideways put down to our membership since most of us are probably firmly middle class.

I'm not meaning to insult cgroupman but just no longer wish to read his posts.
LOL No, I haven't done that yet. I'll decide later if he tends to annoy me so much since I normally wait until the vulgarity arrives before pulling the trigger. I was just reading a post of his in another thread that had me thinking to myself, "what are you talking about???".

People with money or claim to have money don't impress me much any more. I know too many rich folks who were lucky, just worked hard or were in the right place at the right time to acquire wealth. It rarely has anything to do with how intelligent they are. In fact, I believe the more intelligent one is, the harder it is to get wealthy. Comfortable yes - wealthy no.
 
Quote from pspr:

LOL No, I haven't done that yet. I'll decide later if he tends to annoy me so much since I normally wait until the vulgarity arrives before pulling the trigger. I was just reading a post of his in another thread that had me thinking to myself, "what are you talking about???".

People with money or claim to have money don't impress me much any more. I know too many rich folks who were lucky, just worked hard or were in the right place at the right time to acquire wealth. It rarely has anything to do with how intelligent they are. In fact, I believe the more intelligent one is, the harder it is to get wealthy. Comfortable yes - wealthy no.

Ok.

I've never seen any vulgarity from him, none.

You've got midwest sensibilities that equip you do deal with a wider range of types of people than I.

I'm an engineer and people around me have always noticed that I am extremely binary about things. There aren't any shades of gray with me. Its... a character flaw but also something fairly common with engineering types.

There is also a bandwidth consideration. I have a limited data plan over cellular and I tether my desktop to my cell phone via USB. My data plan is 4GB per month. If a guy's posts are pissing me off then it makes me wonder why I should pay to read those posts. When someone is ignored and I click on a thread that the ignored person is posting in then less data is pulled down over my link. I put RCG on because his posts were starting to make me really uncomfortable. Other guys I put on when they get really vulgar, others if they exhibit genuine hatred towards me. I used to purge the list occasionally but not anymore.
 
Quote from 377OHMS:

Ok.

I've never seen any vulgarity from him, none.

You've got midwest sensibilities that equip you do deal with a wider range of types of people than I.

I'm an engineer and people around me have always noticed that I am extremely binary about things. There aren't any shades of gray with me. Its... a character flaw but also something fairly common with engineering types.

There is also a bandwidth consideration. I have a limited data plan over cellular and I tether my desktop to my cell phone via USB. My data plan is 4GB per month. If a guy's posts are pissing me off then it makes me wonder why I should pay to read those posts. When someone is ignored and I click on a thread that the ignored person is posting in then less data is pulled down over my link. I put RCG on because his posts were starting to make me really uncomfortable. Other guys I put on when they get really vulgar, others if they exhibit genuine hatred towards me. I used to purge the list occasionally but not anymore.
I don't know why you don't have a better Internet plan. Mine has always been unlimited. I started giving them $20 more a month for their (TWC) faster service but I don't see any difference. I'm online doing something about 10 or 12 hours a day.

It's not a character flaw. It's CHARACTER! My major was EE so I come from the same place. Things have to be orderly or they don't make sense. What I don't understand is how so many scientists can be liberals. It makes no sense to me. I can only assume they don't carry their logical analysis into other areas of life.
 
Quote from futurecurrents:

Well, if Bush and co hadn't crashed the economy the employee retirement funds would be in much better shape. It was the sudden loss of value in these programs that really has made things so bad.




This is the real source of waste and cost in the good ol USA. This is where we're putting our efforts and where our taxes go.

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ehhhh... I don't think you can blame Bush for much of anything.. The subprime loan problem was cooked up by Leftist Kooks like Jimmy Carter, carried forward by Bill Clinton and currently is being covered up by Obama/Pelose/et al

The thing about a military is that it is expensive if you use it. Sun Tzu wrote about it hundreds of years ago. He said it's suicide to not have a military and it's very expensive to use a military. So the answer is to have a military and never use it.. These so-called leaders we have from both the Republicans and the [anti-war] Democrats use the military like there was no tomorrow and it's senseless from the viewpoint of US citizens.
 
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