What Can We Expect From A President Obama, Part I?

[bigdavediode]

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Non-Latino, White America commits no higher rate of violent crime than Canadians and less than many areas of Europe.

I haven't check your facts here (although given your track record I'm skeptical -- not of the statistic, but of your ability to correctly communicate most statistics) -- but let's say it's true and you've got it right.

That means, if you skim off the Americans with the lowest violent crime rate, it's on par with everybody, every socio-economic class in Canada including the worst classes.

You understand what you're saying here? It wasn't a positive thing for the US.

 

[Brandonf]

Quote from bigdavediode:

I don't want to interrupt with inconvenient facts, but previous to a family shooting, the Swiss military ammo was issued, sealed, and inspection was required regularly to make sure that it hadn't been tampered with.

After a family shooting, the issuing of ammunition was stopped.

And then there was the Parliament shooting where a guy went in with a rifle and killed 14 people, but that was a privately owned gun.

And yes, I do enjoy firing various weapons. I just enjoy facts more.

If what you have posted above is true I will stand corrected.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from ChkitOut:

I'm not saying guns CAUSE violence, a piece of metal can't cause anything.

I'm just saying in a country with so many violent people, it makes it worse when you give them easy access to guns.

Sounds like we have too many violent people. Maybe we should "ban" them in one way or another.

 

[Pa(b)st Prime]

Quote from bigdavediode:

I haven't check your facts here (although given your track record I'm skeptical -- not of the statistic, but of your ability to correctly communicate most statistics) -- but let's say it's true and you've got it right.

That means, if you skim off the Americans with the lowest violent crime rate, it's on par with everybody, every socio-economic class in Canada including the worst classes.

You understand what you're saying here? It wasn't a positive thing for the US.

Yes. Our whites if isolated would still have a higher incidence of homicide than Canadian whites. Not by leaps and bounds but higher.

Crime stats in the U.S. are open to great interpretation. The racial component on FBI collected data-the only national data source-fails to categorize Latinos as a distinct racial class. Hence most Mexicans are classified as white. Pretty big flaw.

Secondly crime stats only use facts not assumptions. Race of victim. Race of person arrested. Since a high, high percentage of gang crimes don't result in arrest the race of the offender is officially unknown. Even though in all likelihood he was Mexican or black the offender is never given "credit" for his crime. Hence white murder rates in America are horrendously skewed.

Consumers of local media can empirically verify how rare white homicide is in America. I'd guess in the city of Chicago around one a month. The last time I looked at official CPD figures was in the 90's and the year I saw there were 800 Chicago murders and 14 were committed by non-Hispanic whites (CPD breaks down their data to ethniticity).

 

[Fractals 'R Us]

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Chicago has BANNED guns since the early 1990's.

Chicago leads the U.S. in homicides........

People should read the Art of War. What a book. They would allow guns if they had a brain.. I need to reread it... couldn't Chi town Democrats see what was going on in other leftist shitholes like DC and NY? Gun bans didn't work there either. I guess idealogues only can learn when a new idealogy comes along or something...

 

[Mercor]

Remember it is the congress that send the bill to Obama. There is no question the House and Senate would send a bill for everthing AAA says to Obama.

The question is would Obama veto it? Answer...NO NO NO.

Clinton went far left his first 2 years then Newt took over and fixed Clinton. Will Obama go left or will he learn from Clinton and go to the middle

 

[Dr. Zhivodka]

Yes until he got bent over and buttfuxxed by Bubba Jeff...and sent home in a disgrace of his own making. That was a real shame.

Quote from Mercor:

Clinton went far left his first 2 years then Newt took over and fixed Clinton.

 

[ChkitOut]

Quote from Lucrum:

Sounds like we have too many violent people. Maybe we should "ban" them in one way or another.

Now you're speaking my language.

I fully support mandatory loooong minimum sentences for violent crimes. First time offenders.

If there is one thing I'll pay higher taxes for, that would be to build more jails.

They'll get the message eventually. The left won't allow it though.

 

[OneLeggedJane]

I think the premise for this thread ought to be examined. AAA takes it as a given that Obama is the most leftward candidate ever to run for president. Why does he say this and what is his evidence?

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

" I arm myself for one reason only. To protect myself from minorities."

Such is the nature of bigotry...

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

You're missing the point. There's little correlation between gun laws and gun violence. Some of the places with draconian gun prohibition-D.C. and Chicago most famously-have horrific murder rates while areas with lax gun laws, in the case of Switzerland compulsory gun ownership, with far less crime than firearm restricted zones.

Let's not mince words. Political correctness-the antithesis to frank problem solving discussion-dictates we not speak the obvious. Gun violence falls upon distinct racial, socio-economic lines. Non-Latino, White America commits no higher rate of violent crime than Canadians and less than many areas of Europe. I arm myself for one reason only. To protect myself from minorities. I will not give up that right without a fight.