What are the largest fortunes ever made by INDEPENDENT traders?

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You really haven't put any thought to having a plan for billions have you? Mine doesn't just including assuming I can time markets my whole life.

Nor does it include a plan to formulate a coherent sentence, either?
 
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The 8 figure is within 4 months of 7 figures that's currently 8-10 months away, but 9 figure $100 mil is out of reach as soon as position limits kick in, but by then opm funding should not be a problem.

Really, I know I have a holy grail, even if it's 4 different systems combined I'd say they might be the best models in the world.

Deja Vu. That's what you said in 2007 too Beau, or did you forget already?
 
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You really haven't put any thought to having a plan for billions have you? Mine doesn't just including assuming I can time markets my whole life.

I will also add that in the same period of time that your covestor account has lost money, I have almost doubled my little $2000 account to $3723. Account opened Nov. 1st, 2011. That's 3.5 months. You can add a minimum of $180 to that given my current XAU/USD trade is still pending, but the trailing stop guarantees $180 minimum minus slippage. At that rate I should hit 1 million pretty quickly! :p

Try just staring at one thing for 6 months. After a while you start to just "feel" how it trades. Sorry if that sounds a little too touchy feely for you. :D :D

No indicators. Just candle sticks and a moving average. 1 min/5 min/1hour/1 day charts.
 
Here we have a post where people speak of billions, are worried about hitting position limits ... etc. While dreaming big is probably a healthy thing to do there are points where a reality check does come in handy.
 
For many years it was rumored that Jeffry Picower was Goldman's largest individual client and that his trading skill left them with their mouth hanging open in amazement. His widow forked out over seven billion last year in a claw back settlement with the Madoff Trustee where Picower was clearly an integral part (in many ways a partner) in Madoff's scheme.

Leaving aside that segment of the fortune that was tainted by illegal activity the man's reputation as a trader was that of a near psychic and I doubt the guys at Goldman are easy to impress.
 
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For many years it was rumored that Jeffry Picower was Goldman's largest individual client and that his trading skill left them with their mouth hanging open in amazement. His widow forked out over seven billion last year in a claw back settlement with the Madoff Trustee where Picower was clearly an integral part (in many ways a partner) in Madoff's scheme.

Leaving aside that segment of the fortune that was tainted by illegal activity the man's reputation as a trader was that of a near psychic and I doubt the guys at Goldman are easy to impress.


Pfft. Anyone who got into bed with Madoff isn't worthy of ANY respect. If he was that great he wouldn't have needed to get involved in a Ponzi scheme to steal innocent peoples' money.

Any why wouldn't Goldman Sachs or any other bank be easy to impress? Do they have ANY great traders these days at all? They just go long on the simple premise that the market goes up 80% of the time and look like superstars for 4 years until they do the same in the bearish 5th year and lose 10 times more than they accumulated in the previous 4 years. Mind you, if your working on an ANNUAL BONUS BASIS, the trader still ends up pretty rich having pocketed 4 years of bonuses even though overall he LOST THE BANK MONEY.
 
I didn't know trading talent immunized anyone from being greedy scum. I have been told by someone from GS that the man was virtually psychic when it came to trading and that Goldman did not have even a single client that was even close in ability.

Your analysis of Goldman's business model might be a bit simplistic. And yes, they do have at least a few talented traders.

Respect? Maybe Albert Schweitzer

Quote from Joovenile Jatt:

Pfft. Anyone who got into bed with Madoff isn't worthy of ANY respect. If he was that great he wouldn't have needed to get involved in a Ponzi scheme to steal innocent peoples' money.

Any why wouldn't Goldman Sachs or any other bank be easy to impress? Do they have ANY great traders these days at all? They just go long on the simple premise that the market goes up 80% of the time and look like superstars for 4 years until they do the same in the bearish 5th year and lose 10 times more than they accumulated in the previous 4 years. Mind you, if your working on an ANNUAL BONUS BASIS, the trader still ends up pretty rich having pocketed 4 years of bonuses even though overall he LOST THE BANK MONEY.
 
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For many years it was rumored that Jeffry Picower was Goldman's largest individual client and that his trading skill left them with their mouth hanging open in amazement. His widow forked out over seven billion last year in a claw back settlement with the Madoff Trustee where Picower was clearly an integral part (in many ways a partner) in Madoff's scheme.

Leaving aside that segment of the fortune that was tainted by illegal activity the man's reputation as a trader was that of a near psychic and I doubt the guys at Goldman are easy to impress.

Isn't that the cover up spin? The Goldman letter saying he was self directed and held AAPL shares was signed by a very junior VP.

seem to remember public records showed that he was associated with a failed USD50-100m biotech company and not much else.

It seems unclear how Picower made his money other than disproportionate disbursements from Madoff.
 
Quote from d08:

Deja Vu. That's what you said in 2007 too Beau, or did you forget already?

I believe the pairs model as it was at that time netted 57% to s&p's 48% loss.
 
Quote from bwolinsky:

I believe the pairs model as it was at that time netted 57% to s&p's 48% loss.

Yes, but that's how these bear focused models work. They get it right when the crash happens, but get it wrong the other 80% of the time. Lol. Just teasing you, Beau. :D
 
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