What are the Dem Commies saying about the situation in Cuba?

[TreeFrogTrader]

Trade communism for fascism seems like a bit of a stretch. Let’s just hope for some form of representative democracy before we curse them with the orange turd.

Arguably it is there country and the Cubans are arguably capable of thinking and figuring that out themselves.

Just as many have done in Florida. Quite a few Cubans there are capable of thinking and went with Trump, eh? Gotta be careful with that democracy thing. Sometimes people use it to do what they want to do based on their own thinking.

Not sayin Bernie Sanders is not a fine fellow but it is for them to decide.

 

[El OchoCinco]

Cuba would love, I mean Love, LOVE, LLLLLOVE, to have our agricultural, medical, mechanical, chemical, petro, building, industrial, technological goods. The list never ends. Access to our engineers and doctors to boot. Make no mistake American means quality. Why do you think the green back is the reserve capital of choice. It ain’t our good looks. It’s because it spends in the good ole USA.

America told Cuba fuck you over and over sadly... Cuba has no choice but to look for help where it can get it.

What is Cuba supposed to do if US still imposes an economic blockade?

Time to end the blockade... send a Dept of State and Congressional contingent and stop playing politics for the TV and stroking voters. This is bigger than any party. I have personally seen it and while fuckjtards in the U.S. fight over Dems v. GOP, human beings just want to get a job, work, raise their family travel and enjoy life and could give two shits about castro or some antiquated revolution haha.

 

[UsualName]

America told Cuba fuck you over and over sadly... Cuba has no choice but to look for help where it can get it.

What is Cuba supposed to do if US still imposes an economic blockade?

Time to end the blockade... send a Dept of State and Congressional contingent and stop playing politics for the TV and stroking voters. This is bigger than any party. I have personally seen it and while fuckjtards in the U.S. fight over Dems v. GOP, human beings just want to get a job, work, raise their family travel and enjoy life and could give two shits about castro or some antiquated revolution haha.

I hear you on the humanitarian side. I wish it were possible to open relations with Cuba to a meaningful extent but it’s just not in our national security interest to do so with this regime in place.

Id like to reiterate that some travel and humanitarian easements should be done now.

 

[Cuddles]

Perhaps but the regime is still the same. Once they open up to democracy I will fully support fully opening relations with Cuba. For now, no.

Travel and some basic essentials is something else. I support travel because culture can help bring down the current regime and basics like medicine etc will enhance our reputation but more than that will only empower a regime hostile to our well being.

We do business w/much scummier antidemocratic & repressive regimes in the middle east, we sell them our latest national defense systems and even hire out our troops to do their bidding. Hell, we're abandoning Afghanistan to such faith right now and it's likely Iraq will follow.

I hear you on the humanitarian side. I wish it were possible to open relations with Cuba to a meaningful extent but it’s just not in our national security interest to do so with this regime in place.

Id like to reiterate that some travel and humanitarian easements should be done now.

You know the Cuban missile crisis happened as a response to us putting missiles around the soviets right? Well, that, and propping Batista, our bay of pigs invasion, and assassination attempts on Castro. We're the ones holding a grudge here. In a way I sadly agree and think we should've done this 30 yrs ago, now we're just driving them further into vengefulness by being punitive and into the arms of the Chinese and Putin as well if we start putting missiles around him again.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I hear you on the humanitarian side. I wish it were possible to open relations with Cuba to a meaningful extent but it’s just not in our national security interest to do so with this regime in place.

Id like to reiterate that some travel and humanitarian easements should be done now.

It is not necessarily clear that opening up full trade and relations will result in the humanitarian gains either. I am in favoring of moving forward in some steps so I am not just trying to speak against it. I am just telling you where I get hung up/need more input to get there in my mind.

Yes, Ocho raises the people, family, jobs, aspirational points that we all want to see and those are the the zippy things to support. On the other hand, none of us should be naive about what the accusations would be two years down the road if we just removed all barriers. And those accusations would come from the Cubans outraged that the opening up of relations led to a flood of gringo money and big business capitalism plundering Cuba and providing revenue to prop up a failing regime while the Cuban population gets peanuts from it and still lives in poverty. And we know there will/would be a lot/much of that. So it is not immediately clear to me that this is a "humanitarian" versus "national security" issue. Since it has only been a day or two since I have seen them, I am reminded of the Cuban protester comments/signs that say: "You build hotels, while we starve." Something to think about. They already are getting a heavy dose of that.

One can argue "well, what do they have to lose." Well actually a lot if we prop up or provide revenue and diplomatic support for a regime that then hangs on for years to feather their own nest, whereas they might have been driven out by unrest if no one saved them, and then the people could get better or different leadership. There are no guarantees of anything anywhere nor is it easy. Was it any different for the Americans in the revolution. You could be very easily get hung for resisting the government. The people in Portland, Maine spoke out against the Crown and the British brought in their fleet and shelled and burned the entire city into oblivion. So yeh, the Cubans be in a tough spot but this can happen to freedom loving people.

Having said that, I would still like to move forward in some kind of manner even if limited just as a matter of keeping the issue alive and leaning forward. Biden's press secretary, ironically, said just a few days before this blew up that "Cuba was not a top priority." You can read that to mean "not any priority and the Biden administration is not in the business of making Cuban republicans happy." In an ideal world, the Cubans would get rowdy enough to move the current dildo out and we could go forward on better terms. As we see in VZ, it doesnt always end out there but freedom lovers should decide for themselves how committed they are.

 

[Cuddles]

What are the GQP imperialists saying about the situation in Cuba?

 

[El OchoCinco]

Seems we deal with China, Russia and Vietnam but suddenly Cuba is a bad regime where changes are needed and we should not do anything...

Only thing going to lift the people up is jobs and income from U.S. businesses because the Cuban government is poor. Open U.S. plants and businesses and hotels and force conditions for fair wages relative for Cuba and restrictions on government involvement and you have a path forward. Cuba already allows limited capitalistic businesses and they are successful. China took the same first steps and look at them. Cuba is 1/1000th their size but the same gains can be made but better than what we pretend to see in China.

 

[Overnight]

*insert any Scarface clip here.*

 

[easymon1]

 

[gwb-trading]

AOC silent as DSA appears to back Cuba's communist regime over protesters
Ocasio-Cortez is one of four Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) members in Congress
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-cuba-protests-democratic-socialists.amp

New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and three other House Democrats affiliated with the far-left Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) have so far remained silent while the DSA appears to back Cuba's communist regime against protesters demanding freedom.

Ocasio-Cortez, Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, New York Rep. Jamaal Bowman and Missouri Rep. Cori Bush make up the four DSA members in Congress. All four members have yet to speak out about the ongoing protests in Cuba and none of their offices returned Fox News' requests for comment by press time.

The DSA International Committee on Monday declared its solidarity with the "Revolution" – the term used by the communist regime – "in this moment of unrest." The DSA's national arm also echoed Cuba's president in blaming America's trade embargo with the communist regime for the unrest.

The DSA didn't return Fox News' request for comment by time of publication.

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, broke his silence on the Cuban protests in a late-night tweet Monday that urged the Cuban government to "refrain from violence" while criticizing the U.S. for its embargo.

Cuba isn't the only socialist regime to receive positive treatment from the DSA.

Earlier this month, a DSA delegation met with Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro, who tweeted photos from the meeting.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1411150426049810434