What are the 3 most important issues facing American today?

[Pa(b)st Prime]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

So no regulation on the credit markets at all would be a good deal?

I see the corporate footprint on American economic culture far shallower than any prior time in history. Titans are dying. If anything the federal government has been fueled by corporate profits for years. Exxon's taxes paid one sixth of Iraq by themselves last year. Corporate World's impending profit death will cause dire effects on government spending and borrowing.

As far as "regulation" and credit markets-didn't matter. What goes in goes out. Causations are WAY to deep for MSM dolts to wax philisophical over so we'll just reduce "regulation" to the under debated, anti-intellecual file cabinet holding the "defense", "education" and "tax" files.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Do you think part of the cause of that is the corporations who load up the food we eat with corn syrup and other chemicals because it is cheaper to produce food that way?

Quote from Debaser82:

Obesity

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

Say you have a drunk that goes on binges of drinking, crashes, then repeats the cycle their entire life. Along the way, they leave in their wake multiple broken marriages, failed work projects, some jail time, and end up with tremendous medical expenses.

Now, would that person and the country have been better off if there had been some intervention to help the poor person regulate their life to live more of a balanced existence, or is it no ones business how a person lives this life regardless of the social, and economic consequences to the community and his immediate family?

Corporations exist for the sole purpose of making a profit. Is there more to life and the propagation of a balanced society than allowing corporations to behave like sharks in a pool of small indefensible fish?

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

I see the corporate footprint on American economic culture far shallower than any prior time in history. Titans are dying. If anything the federal government has been fueled by corporate profits for years. Exxon's taxes paid one sixth of Iraq by themselves last year. Corporate World's impending profit death will cause dire effects on government spending and borrowing.

As far as "regulation" and credit markets-didn't matter. What goes in goes out. Causations are WAY to deep for MSM dolts to wax philisophical over so we'll just reduce "regulation" to the under debated, anti-intellecual file cabinet holding the "defense", "education" and "tax" files.

 

[Pa(b)st Prime]

Of course but I'm not readily reading your analogy.

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

Say you have a drunk that goes on binges of drinking, crashes, then repeats the cycle their entire life. Along the way, they leave in their wake multiple broken marriages, failed work projects, some jail time, and end up with tremendous medical expenses.

Now, would that person and the country have been better off if there had been some intervention to help the poor person regulate their life to live more of a balanced existence?

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

You are not reading, or you are not understanding or accepting the validity of the analogy?

The bottom line is a balance between the shark-like nature of the corporate animal and the nature of the small fish to want to live off simply eating plant life....

Balance, balance, balance.

Can you say that we have a balanced system in place right now?

Quote from Pa(b)st Prime:

Of course but I'm not readily reading your analogy.

 

[hughb]

Quote from Mercor:

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Let the Government back off and business will leave them alone.

Until they go to the govt with their hands out begging for $700B because they lost all their money gambling on financial crap products that they invented themselves. They don't want the govt to back off then.

 

[Mercor]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

So no regulation on the credit markets at all would be a good deal?

I am assuming that you have studied unregulated markets over the course of history and see what they produce...

Bubbles and crashes, boom and busts...unregulated greed, false shortages, immense suffering.

Is that what you think is really best for America?

In the past decade we have seen a stock market bubble crash, twice, a housing bubble crash, a credit bubble crash, an oil bubble crash, etc.

All of these boom and busts were the fault of the government, and would not have happened with a zero regulation policy?

If you look at markets under complete regulation you find the same problems..ie..Communism...Marxism.
The difference is in market economies adjustments can be made quicker to shift resources to the greatest need.
In Communism people starve to death before problems are acknowledged.

Many of the past boom/busts have been from lack of accurate or misleading information. I would prefer independent groups from both sides help with transparency.

You do need laws. A corporation cannot dump toxins onto a neighborhood. In any society individual rights need to be protected.

 

[ZZZzzzzzzz]

So we do agree that we need a balance between the nature of the corporate needs (profit only) and the needs of the non corporate entities who are simply focused on living a reasonably comfortable life.

If you agree, then we are coming from the same point of view in that we need a balance between the forces of pure capitalism and pure socialism, with the federal and local governments being the only independent agencies that have any chance to try and maintain that type of balance.

Independent agencies that have no ability to make or enforce law, to determine crime and implement punishment are of little value, don't you agree?

Quote from Mercor:

If you look at markets under complete regulation you find the same problems..ie..Communism...Marxism.
The difference is in market economies adjustments can be made quicker to shift resources to the greatest need.
In Communism people starve to death before problems are acknowledged.

Many of the past boom/busts have been from lack of accurate or misleading information. I would prefer independent groups from both sides help with transparency.

You do need laws. A corporation cannot dump toxins onto a neighborhood. In any society individual rights need to be protected.

 

[Mercor]

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

with the federal and local governments being the only independent agencies that have any chance to try and maintain that type of balance.

Independent agencies that have no ability to make or enforce law, to determine crime and implement punishment are of little value, don't you agree?

When I say "Independent" I mean outside of goverment.

The FCC, FDA for example have been corrupted.

The Independents will be judged on ther record.

 

[Pa(b)st Prime]

Those issues are self correcting within the market place. Corporate profits are derived from sales to little fish. It's an exchange of wages for product. A million factors can change the equilibrium. At one time or another-before Big Pharma existed-there was populist outrage aimed at "Auto's", "Steel", "Railroads ect. None are even on the American landscape any longer. If you discovered a cure for cancer is it unreasonable to expect compensation along the lines of Oprah?

The only great robber barons I see in American life are caricatures of the Left. Academia and the MSM. They waste the greatest asset of man, ideas. Via their salaries the world knows they only work for money so why shouldn't EVERYONE follow their lead?

Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:

You are not reading, or you are not understanding the analogy?

The bottom line is a balance between the shark-like nature of the corporate animal and the nature of the small fish to want to live off simply eating plant life....

Balance, balance, balance.

Can you say that we have a balanced system in place right now?